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  24-Nov-16, 10:21   #1
Legal status of online poker in Australia 0 
jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 6471
Hi everyone!!


Been a VERY long time since I've posted here, hope ya'll doing well and kicking some ass on the virtual felt.


I post today because of some unfortunate news.

Australia is about to put some legislation to vote that could prohibit online gaming - including poker.

PokerStars have recently made a statement that if the law passes, then they WILL pull out of the Australian market!!!

Most likely if Stars pull out, so will all the other well-regulated sites.

We will be left with the shitty, unregulated poker rooms that still accept American players. These rooms regularly steal play account funds and are a haven for criminals (bots, collusion rings, super users, etc).


We need online poker to be excluded from this bill!!

Time is almost up - but you can still put in a submission to our government and explain why online poker should be allowed!


I've made a submission myself (see number 21).


GO to this site to make a submission:

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate_ec


And you can email this address with your own submission:

ec.sen@aph.gov.au




Please do it!



Anyone in Australia who DOES NOT make a submission has absolutely ZERO right to complain in the future when we lose online poker.

Now is the time to fight. Make a submission. make your voice heard. Be polite, informed and most of all - be convincing!

We need this!

We need you!

     
  24-Nov-16, 11:25   #2
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T3ddyKGB 

Joined: Oct '08
Location: Germany
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 1877
hi jess, i guess only australian submissions will be accepted ? else im gonna do it, np..

     
  24-Nov-16, 13:24   #3
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 3751
Posted by T3ddyKGB:
hi jess, i guess only australian submissions will be accepted ? else im gonna do it, np..



Same here Jess.
Just let us know

     
  24-Nov-16, 17:20   #4
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pajalnick 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Russian Federation
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 3126
I can only express sympathy and regret from this law ... we in Russia offline gambling was banned a few years ago and I was very unhappy with this because ... but often played online games until we have banned, and I hope that this terrible law will not be accepted

     
  24-Nov-16, 17:28   #5
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 9028
look who's back... nice to see a familiar face from waaaaaaay back when i was a young pochui. now with all that rosy talk over i must admit that i don't really give a sh1t whether online poker will be banned in australia or not... so jess- it looks like you should start thinking about moving to zimbabwe or ivory coast if you want to continue your online poker career.

     
  24-Nov-16, 22:40   #6
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 10529
Pretty much a waste of time. No matter how many you will get to sign, they will do whatever they
want.
The only time your voice can be heard "supposedly" Smile) is the time you are voting for them.
Then its over till the next time, there are elections Smile

     
  25-Nov-16, 00:51   #7
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bowie1984 

Joined: Apr '12
Location: Hungary
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 4980
Posted by jessthehuman:
Anyone in Australia who DOES NOT make a submission has absolutely ZERO right to complain in the future when we lose online poker.

As if the truckload of life threatening spiders, insects, snakes, sharks were not enough for you aussies, the goverment is making sure you will feel miserable anyway.

     
  25-Nov-16, 02:23   #8
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SBEP 

Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 1003
Well m8 like i told the yanks on cardchat forum ill say the same thing to you, until you set on fire couple of congress mens cars, your petition will be as effective as fart in the wind, they are all corrupt, and you think petitioning something will change their mind, wow its like talking to a 3 year old kid, or some1 that fell from mars yesterday and doesnt know how things work on this planet, put some fear in those cuntss m8, thats the only way ull be able to do something, once those cuntss see the police cant protect them from the mob, they will change their tune, until then, dream on little kid dream oooooonnnnn

     
  25-Nov-16, 06:54   #9
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TheMachineQC 

Joined: Apr '10
Location: Canada
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 2412
Hey welcome back to the beautiful bankrollmob forum Jessthehuman! I was wondering if you were dead or something the other day... Worship Still grinding poker or have you stopped playing because you were a degenerate gambler? Blink Just kidding I know you had some nice wins.

Anyways, I heard about that... I think regulations are gonna make online poker impossible in the future if we don't do anything but it's kind of the same thing with music, movies ect. being downloaded for free on the internet. But what can we do against a stupid governement?

     
  25-Nov-16, 10:28   #10
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dule-vu 

Joined: May '09
Location: Croatia
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 3756
we have more and more countries who have some restriction on poker sites,gambling site,casino sites!some countries cant play,beacuse your country dont have any profit/tax from that,some countries ban poker as way of gambling!cant believe that in todays world we cant do what we want on internet!what a hell they have problems what we will do with out money!

     
  29-Nov-16, 10:24   #11
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Tony_MON7ANA 

Joined: Mar '14
Location: Japan
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 4742
Hi, jessthehuman. Welcome back to the forum.
We are so sorry to hear about your situation.

I just googled Australian gambling and betting laws by state and territories. Intentionally ambiguous statutes have got my mind boggled.

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Tuesday, November 29, 2016 @ 10:45 GMT)


     
  29-Nov-16, 17:28   #12
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 9028
ok ok jess i am seriously considering changing my opinion on the question by 180 degrees (pretty much like trump does all the time) and actually making a submission using the links you provided. i am forcing myself to go through all of these hurdles just to see you back on the forum and sharing your epic wisdom on a regular basis.

     
  30-Nov-16, 01:12   #13
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SBEP 

Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 1003
Dont mind me, i am just here to pick up some points, have nothing to say wisdom wise, happy to pick those 10 points and be on my marry way Big Smile good luck with the discussion Big Smile

     
  30-Nov-16, 18:04   #14
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 9028
aye, picking up some points is indeed an addicting activity that should not be treated lightly, it's a serious work requiring commitment, effort and time to pull it off and become a mob points legend also known as mobpoints whore in the less educated public. so what about poker in australia?

     
  17-Jan-17, 02:09   #15
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 6471
Hi everyone,

Thanks for the support so far. The fight isn't over yet. however - a few days ago 888 (triple 8 for those with adblock) (one of the largest providers in Australia) decided to give up the fight early and has already sent out emails to their Australian customers advising them to withdraw funds.

Poker Stars is staying the course- but they HAVE said they WILL pull out of the Australian market if this legislation passes.

Online poker in Australia could be dead as early as the end of this month Sad


Here are a couple more links:

This first one is just for Australian Tax payers: put in your info and a letter will be sent to your local MP

http://www.taxpayers.org.au/keep_online_poker_legal

This next link is a standard online petition "change.org" link that ANYONE can (and should) sign. Remember - this doesn't just effect Aussies - but every time another country drops from the shared player pool, everyone loses.

https://www.change.org/p/keep-online-poker-in-australia


Thanks everyone

And I will try and stick around a bit more now.. To be honest - I spent a long time away from po ker in general.. I just.. needed a break I guess.. But I've started playing again recently.. Going well, cashed for around $3K on Stars MTTs in the last week, so that's been great Smile

Coming from a $4 satellite into a $44 Bounty builder, and a direct buy-in to a $16.50 HOT game (which was disappointing, came 3/1056 which is great, but I had a 3:1 chip lead over 2nd place when we were down to three and I went from being a huge chip leader, to out of the game, in three hands - all coolers. Was pretty sick. but still, cashed around AUS$2K for 3rd, so can't complain).


Hope you're all doing well..

Good to see there are still so many of the old regs about !! Good stuff Thumbs Up

     
  17-Jan-17, 12:26   #16
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dule-vu 

Joined: May '09
Location: Croatia
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 3756
I just can hope that this will stop and that that rest of countries will able to play poker on big sites!I am sorry to read,that lot of member will be banned from poker sites and will not be able to play favourite poker games!

     
  17-Jan-17, 21:58   #17
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Gerimantas 
Joined: Jan '17
Location: Lithuania
Age: 59 (M)
Posts: 233
Hello, i want to say that I am sorry to hear such bad news for Australian poker players, this is really a sad situation, best wishes for Australians I hope you still have other poker rooms that are left operating in your country.

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Hello, i want to say that I am sorry to hear such bad news for Australian poker players, this is really a sad situation, best wishes for Australians I hope you still have other poker rooms that are left operating in your country.

     
  17-Jan-17, 23:34   #18
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TigerAxL 

Joined: Feb '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 409
Posted by jessthehuman:
Hi everyone!!


Been a VERY long time since I've posted here, hope ya'll doing well and kicking some ass on the virtual felt.


I post today because of some unfortunate news.

Australia is about to put some legislation to vote that could prohibit online gaming - including poker.

PokerStars have recently made a statement that if the law passes, then they WILL pull out of the Australian market!!!

Most likely if Stars pull out, so will all the other well-regulated sites.

We will be left with the shitty, unregulated poker rooms that still accept American players. These rooms regularly steal play account funds and are a haven for criminals (bots, collusion rings, super users, etc).


We need online poker to be excluded from this bill!!

Time is almost up - but you can still put in a submission to our government and explain why online poker should be allowed!


I've made a submission myself (see number 21).


GO to this site to make a submission:

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate_ec


And you can email this address with your own submission:

ec.sen@aph.gov.au




Please do it!



Anyone in Australia who DOES NOT make a submission has absolutely ZERO right to complain in the future when we lose online poker.

Now is the time to fight. Make a submission. make your voice heard. Be polite, informed and most of all - be convincing!

We need this!

We need you!


Don t worry ,probably is not gona happen ,2 years ago happened in my county also (ok,mine isn t Australia ) but ,it happened that only 3 big poker sites function only and & are under my state licenced (ex Tongueokerplatform.ro)

     
  18-Jan-17, 01:12   #19
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Robbo1990 
Joined: Dec '12
Location: New Zealand
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 245
if we had great casinos or if my local casino actually had poker then i wouldnt care if online gambling was banned - but we dont so im so glad we (aussies lil bro) do not have such rules yet

     
  19-Jan-17, 02:01   #20
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 6471
Posted by Robbo1990:
if we had great casinos or if my local casino actually had poker then i wouldnt care if online gambling was banned - but we dont so im so glad we (aussies lil bro) do not have such rules yet


Yeah - I am lucky in that I live in Melbourne, not far from Crown Casino - so I can catch plenty of live action if I want.. But I'm an MTT player.. so .. playing 50 people at Crown is a SNG for an online MTT regular!

edit; That said - in some ways you are lucky. Crown casino - and our other major casinos, like Star - are putting HUGE amounts of money behind the lobbying to get online poker banned effectively.

So by not having local (incredibly wealthy) competition lobbying against you.... Thumbs Up

     
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