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Playerís Accessories outlawed in latest Matt Savage Social Experiment Event

Tags: Brandon McPherson, Matt Savage, Social Experiment
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 by "T".
Matt Savage is well known in the world of poker as a very excellent tournament director. His latest creation of a tournament schedule for his home casino, the Commerce Casino located in Los Angeles, has definitely riled up some players in the poker community. He announced the Social Experiment event as part of the California State Poker Championship. In this particular event, players will not be[...]   Read more » Playerís Accessories outlawed in latest Matt Savage Social Experiment Event

  7-Apr-17, 11:10   #1
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Gerimantas 
Joined: Jan '17
Location: Lithuania
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I don't think thus is good idea, dome people like social things, to talk to other players to get attention be in the centre of things, but some people hate it and want just to play, concentrate on their game, how to play hands, count in their heads, so some will not like it.

     
  7-Apr-17, 12:12   #2
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Robbo1990 

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didnt pokerstars do this for one game,,,or was it announced at pokerstars panama? either way they said it was more about opening the game up to new people - 'non pros'...you go to your first big tournament and your completely shut off, everyone has heads down playing on phones/covered faces/sunglasses and so you dont really have a good time - and the recreational players are the ones that juice the stakes so keep them happy and everyone wins. plus i hate during the wsop or main tables when they go talk to the rail everyhand....thats practically collusion since the rail isnt allowed to talk to you at the table kind of thing .

anyway I dont know why some are complaining - were they even going to be playing in this event? and the idea is great especially considering the idea that hes trying to open poker up instead of it shutting people out

     
  7-Apr-17, 12:59   #3
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pajalnick 

Joined: Mar '11
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Dog-guide allowed ?? ... I understand that this is a poker game for blind people ?? .... more stupid rule, I have not heard ... people for some reason are trying to introduce new rules and think that this is someone you need .... auditory Devices with vy-fie and communication with other people are also allowed? ... interesting

     
  7-Apr-17, 18:41   #4
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
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i dunno, this is not all white or all black idea, but i generally don't like when something is enforced by the rules you must obey or someone is going to snap off your balls if you decide to go on your own... i have nothing against the idea as a whole, but it would be better if they just encourage people to open up, talk about it more etc. rather than just say "you must do it, or else..."

     
  7-Apr-17, 21:46   #5
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Mober 
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And where exactly is the experiment here.
All i see is restrictions in the game.
Restrictions that can make it interesting.
For example some are wearing the sunglasses to protect them from giving away
signs with their eyes. Now they wont be able to do that if they choose to participate Blink

     
  8-Apr-17, 12:52   #6
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pajalnick 

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Posted by Mober:
And where exactly is the experiment here.
All i see is restrictions in the game.
Restrictions that can make it interesting.
For example some are wearing the sunglasses to protect them from giving away
signs with their eyes. Now they wont be able to do that if they choose to participate Blink

About the glasses that hide the eyes ..... there is a difficult moment ... some people can play with a stone expression of the face and eyes, no matter what, and some people mimic their eyes and give out their courts to attentive players ... on the internet of course It's easier because no one sees you, and then there is such a lot of stress

     
  8-Apr-17, 16:53   #7
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Gerimantas 
Joined: Jan '17
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So if I am not allowed tonwear glasses to mask my eyes, maybe i can cober my eys with my hand and look through my fingers, this would be funny tournament if many players would do this, very social tournament I think Smile or maybe cover eyes with cards?

     
  8-Apr-17, 20:05   #8
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
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so what if i am a shy dude, and just like Mober mentions i am forced to take of my pilot sunglasses:



maybe in such case i am at least allowed to wear a helmet:


     
  8-Apr-17, 20:20   #9
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bowie1984 

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Posted by pochui:
i have nothing against the idea as a whole, but it would be better if they just encourage people to open up, talk about it more etc. rather than just say "you must do it, or else..."

Honestly open up about what? Half of these players are barely functioning autists the rest are just your addict gamblers anyway...

     
  9-Apr-17, 07:53   #10
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doubletop777 
Joined: Mar '11
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I think that this is a very good move and it will be interesting to see how it works. There are far too many players wearing sunglasses and hoodies and this negates the ability to read players

     
  9-Apr-17, 10:03   #11
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
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Social Experiment? I don't get this aspect of this set of rules. It's just a gimmick to get some media attention for this little game. As it's in the US, maybe a few rules like, NO GUNS, or NO BURGERS would be a more controversial restriction. As it stands, all the guy is trying to do is stop people hiding and being seen for who they are! Hang on a minute..... if they choose to hide, isn't that who they are?????????

     
  10-Apr-17, 00:25   #12
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bowie1984 

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Posted by damosk:
As it stands, all the guy is trying to do is stop people hiding and being seen for who they are!

Yeah I am not sure either that missing glasses or a hoodie here or there will make you go into banters with the other players to be honest.

     
  10-Apr-17, 08:04   #13
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pochui 

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well yeah, like bowie said in one of his posts, i am also not too sure the about the positives of this mass opening up with your table neighbours thing, all that this will lead to is a very intellectual conversation like: "how much did you lose yesterday", "can you lend me $100, i will pay you back tomorrow" etc.

     
  10-Apr-17, 14:05   #14
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RoninHarper 

Joined: Nov '12
Location: Canada
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G'day mate

Well these new rule are total BS!
Who gives a @$#@ if some guy wants to ware sunglasses to cover his eyes.
I mean my god I have been playing poker for almost 40 years and there has always been people who tried to hide their eyes.
It has always been a parts of the games.
Players who are antisocial are not going to suddenly start talking just because some dumbarse make them remove the hoods and sunglasses.
I would love to see all the top players ban together just once and say " screw you and your stupid rules, we are all going to boycott your dumb tournament you idiot"!

it will never happen though since players simply will not work together even when it is in their own best interest.

be cool

Ronin Cool

     
  10-Apr-17, 14:46   #15
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Robbo1990 

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Posted by RoninHarper:
G'day mate

Well these new rule are total BS!
Who gives a @$#@ if some guy wants to ware sunglasses to cover his eyes.
I mean my god I have been playing poker for almost 40 years and there has always been people who tried to hide their eyes.
It has always been a parts of the games.
Players who are antisocial are not going to suddenly start talking just because some dumbarse make them remove the hoods and sunglasses.
I would love to see all the top players ban together just once and say " screw you and your stupid rules, we are all going to boycott your dumb tournament you idiot"!

it will never happen though since players simply will not work together even when it is in their own best interest.

be cool

Ronin Cool


the buyin would suggest not many pros would be going anyway unless they are doing a charity thing or sentimental in terms of once winning this

     
  10-Apr-17, 18:00   #16
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RoninHarper 

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G'day mates

Robbo1990 you are probably correct.
It still saddens me to see all these so-called tournament planners constantly screwing around with the rules.
I say just piss off and let us play poker.
Who wants to constantly sit down every other tournament an say
"What are the rule in this one? and can I make them work for me?"

just my opinion

be cool

Ronin Cool

     
  11-Apr-17, 11:26   #17
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H4Rm0Ny 

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Posted by Gerimantas:
So if I am not allowed tonwear glasses to mask my eyes, maybe i can cober my eys with my hand and look through my fingers, this would be funny tournament if many players would do this, very social tournament I think Smile or maybe cover eyes with cards?

Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  11-Apr-17, 11:49   #18
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pochui 

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well actually i am not really pissed off at those tournament directors who as ronin mentions "screwing around with the rules" i don't give a sh1t really, obviously because i don't play live tourneys at all since i am too broke for them and the not allow drinking vodka at the tables, but even if i was into them, i mean you are not forced to play this particular no glasses-no shaved arses tourney, you can pick whatever you want...

     
  17-Apr-17, 04:23   #19
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pothead2012 
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Germany
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 272
I like the idea let's see how it turns out i bet lots of young online Players who take part in this will have a lot of tells all over theyr faces would also be nice if the tournament is televised would love to watch it at least they're not making people dress in suits just to play cards like most of the Casinos here in Germany

     
  17-Apr-17, 09:56   #20
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Wo 
Joined: Apr '17
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 20
I think that the tournament organizers are just trying some new things to see what works and what doesn't. There is a lot of competition in this area, many tournaments on offer any time, so organizers want and probably have to differentiate from the pack to see good results

     
  18-Apr-17, 00:52   #21
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bowie1984 

Joined: Apr '12
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Posted by pochui:
...but even if i was into them, i mean you are not forced to play this particular no glasses-no shaved arses tourney, you can pick whatever you want...

Yeah, but if this gets some traction I can honestly see other organizers following it and God knows what comes after that. I really dont want to see all those ugly people.

     
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