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  8-Apr-17, 02:37   #1
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H4Rm0Ny 

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Hi,

I'm posting this reply to find the best info on what to do in this situation.

I'm chip leader in a full ring table tourney and I get AK off in the UTG1

Should I raise or limp in. If raise, should I 2x or 3x.
I mean in later stages of the tourney I shove this hand even n UTG or middle position but imagining I'm on an after ADDON close hand what should I do.

Want your opinion.

I thank you in advance,
H4Rm0Ny

     
  8-Apr-17, 03:28   #2
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StheP 

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you should avoid limping... and UTG is position from what you should never limp... but some pros (not all, very few) see some merrit in limping UTG, but you must limp with weak hands like QJ and strong hands like AK KK AK same amount of times... but my suggestion is to forget limping UTG... you should never limp there... now for raise size... when you are deep in tournament your opening sizes should always be the same... so if you were 2x-ing all the time than open AK UTG with 2x... but I suggest you to always put little more than 2x... I always do something like 2.1x.... actualy I am just playing with numbers, but always my size is like 2.1x... and if you have diferent opening sizes, than you should know how to apply them... if you open bigger, that open should equaly represent strong and weaker hands... dont be polarized... like open for 3x or bigger when you have strong hands and 2x it when you have weaker... I avoid that... I only raise bigger if there were limpers before me, so I dont invite more players in the pot by pricing them in.... hope I helped Blink

     
  8-Apr-17, 04:10   #3
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H4Rm0Ny 

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Posted by StheP:
you should avoid limping... and UTG is position from what you should never limp... but some pros (not all, very few) see some merrit in limping UTG, but you must limp with weak hands like QJ and strong hands like AK KK AK same amount of times... but my suggestion is to forget limping UTG... you should never limp there... now for raise size... when you are deep in tournament your opening sizes should always be the same... so if you were 2x-ing all the time than open AK UTG with 2x... but I suggest you to always put little more than 2x... I always do something like 2.1x.... actualy I am just playing with numbers, but always my size is like 2.1x... and if you have diferent opening sizes, than you should know how to apply them... if you open bigger, that open should equaly represent strong and weaker hands... dont be polarized... like open for 3x or bigger when you have strong hands and 2x it when you have weaker... I avoid that... I only raise bigger if there were limpers before me, so I dont invite more players in the pot by pricing them in.... hope I helped Blink



yes you did ty,

but anyway one more question .. if you are in a middle position and someone limped in UTG and you have AK, should you call or raise?

     
  8-Apr-17, 08:06   #4
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SBEP 

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The reason you ask how to play AK UTG is coz u have no post flop strategy, even pre flop for that matter, i think thats the case here, for every hand u have to have at least 2 or 3 ways to play the hand, plus here comes also the flop, u can rep the cards on the table and of course lets not forget the player u r up against and hes/hers tendencies, and along the way you should figure out whos stronger in that hand, you or your opponent Big Smile i know it sounds simple, but its not always cut and dry, black and white, but the more hands u play the more situations u get your self in to, the more u will learn and progress.
I would suggest you study pre and post flop game, what hands to avoid, what to play, with what hands to push, with what to isolate, what hands play good post flop, what hands play good pre flop and on and on and on Big Smile
U asked this question, and i guess ull get very different answers, coz it really depends on a lot of things, for example, your table image (if agro) u can open with 3bb trapping some one, coz no1 would believe u have a strong hand, (if u r NIT) raise from UTG would raise a lot of alarm bells around the table resulting everyone folds, u would only get a call from small pairs, same had as yours even AQ, AJ, hands like AA KK QQ would 3bet shove, well mb not the QQ in to a NIT player Big Smile
Maybe ull have a bully on your table, and he sees all of a sudden u r showing backbone, he would fold, and waste your opportunity to take some chips from him (i hate when i get good hand and no action, it sucks Big Smile)
So all in all it depends on a lot of things, and theres no really one answer to your question Big Smile

     
  8-Apr-17, 09:33   #5
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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Hey H4Rm0Ny. Welcome to the forum.
In response to your question, I don't think there is only one right answer here. Almost everything in the game of poker is situation-dependent. That's why it takes a lifetime to truly master the game.

     
  8-Apr-17, 12:56   #6
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H4Rm0Ny 

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TY for ur advises, they sure mean a lot even though I play poker for some years I am always learning, and that is why I ask your opinions.

It truly makes sense that the way I should play the hand will have to match a great study on the table opponents. Like for example the one's you have marked as limpers (with aces or kings), or even the way the opponents you don't have any notes on are playing.

TY once again and if you have anymore tips, bring them on plz
Cool

one more question by the way Tongue
situation:
you have trips or the two biggest pairs on the table, and you have marked your opponent as super fish.
the board show a possibility of your opponent complete a straight (open straight) or a flush and you are almost sure if u shove on turn he will call even depending losing the rest of his stack wish is half of yours. Do u choose to shove on turn or check?

Edited by H4Rm0Ny (Saturday, April 08, 2017 @ 13:06 GMT)


     
  8-Apr-17, 13:01   #7
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pajalnick 

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I will express my opinion personally ... if I get such a card, then depending on the stage of the tournament and my position at the table I play differently .. and even in similar situations I can play differently ... it all depends on many factors and intuition Also included in this list

     
  8-Apr-17, 13:04   #8
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H4Rm0Ny 

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Posted by pajalnick:
I will express my opinion personally ... if I get such a card, then depending on the stage of the tournament and my position at the table I play differently .. and even in similar situations I can play differently ... it all depends on many factors and intuition Also included in this list


ty
and how about in this situation


you have trips or the two biggest pairs on the table, and you have marked your opponent as super fish.
the board show a possibility of your opponent complete a straight (open straight) or a flush and you are almost sure if u shove on turn he will call even depending losing the rest of his stack wish is half of yours. Do u choose to shove on turn or check?

     
  8-Apr-17, 14:15   #9
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StheP 

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about your last question... offcourse its shove, if you know he is calling, or betting big if you are both deep... you should always do that when is wet board and had a lot of drows... you got crushed flop with set or 2 pairs, and you are huge favorite to win pot if your opponent is on drow... you will have a lot of blockers also, because you cut off flush/str8 cards that would pair board... so its easy shove...

     
  8-Apr-17, 14:42   #10
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H4Rm0Ny 

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Posted by StheP:
about your last question... offcourse its shove, if you know he is calling, or betting big if you are both deep... you should always do that when is wet board and had a lot of drows... you got crushed flop with set or 2 pairs, and you are huge favorite to win pot if your opponent is on drow... you will have a lot of blockers also, because you cut off flush/str8 cards that would pair board... so its easy shove...


tx dude that's what I usually do... even though when I shove I end up losing 70% or 80% of the hands.
I can't imagine why these guys pay the buy ins, rebuys and addons to risk it all in one stupid call.
That's why I asked ur opinion.

Edited by H4Rm0Ny (Saturday, April 08, 2017 @ 14:46 GMT)


     
  8-Apr-17, 15:18   #11
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T3ddyKGB 

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Posted by Tony_MON7ANA:
Hey H4Rm0Ny. Welcome to the forum.
In response to your question, I don't think there is only one right answer here. Almost everything in the game of poker is situation-dependent. That's why it takes a lifetime to truly master the game.


this is clearly the only right answer imo. its all situation dependent, what kind of players your face and so on.

     
  8-Apr-17, 18:32   #12
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StheP 

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Posted by T3ddyKGB:
Posted by Tony_MON7ANA:
Hey H4Rm0Ny. Welcome to the forum.
In response to your question, I don't think there is only one right answer here. Almost everything in the game of poker is situation-dependent. That's why it takes a lifetime to truly master the game.


this is clearly the only right answer imo. its all situation dependent, what kind of players your face and so on.

it depends if you use GTO than there is only 1 right answer... but if you use exploatative style than still there is only one right play, but that play depends on what you know about player....

     
  8-Apr-17, 18:33   #13
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H4Rm0Ny 

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Posted by StheP:
Posted by T3ddyKGB:
Posted by Tony_MON7ANA:
Hey H4Rm0Ny. Welcome to the forum.
In response to your question, I don't think there is only one right answer here. Almost everything in the game of poker is situation-dependent. That's why it takes a lifetime to truly master the game.


this is clearly the only right answer imo. its all situation dependent, what kind of players your face and so on.

it depends if you use GTO than there is only 1 right answer... but if you use exploatative style than still there is only one right play, but that play depends on what you know about player....


so you mean if i know for sure he will call I should check and wait for the river?

     
  8-Apr-17, 19:51   #14
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pochui 

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well if you want an opinion from a losing player then i would raise or just shove, i am a chip leader, so i don't give a sh1t if i lose some of my monster stack, but i want to pile the pressure on the other dudes, especially since you're saying it's the later part of the tournament... oh fcuk it, it's just fun being a bully...

     
  9-Apr-17, 07:56   #15
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doubletop777 
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I would always raise in this situation and try to eliminate all the low suited connector hands or rag aces. If a player moves all in over the top than you have a decision to make but you should always raise pre-flop

     
  9-Apr-17, 09:49   #16
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damosk 
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AK is considered a premium hand. The general rule is to play it aggressively. However, of you play every premium hand aggressively you will never win a tournament cos everyone will easily work out your style and fold every time. So.....follow the very good advice that is accumulated by everyone's response here. Play aggressively a percentage of the time and then mix it up ...this allows you to represent yourself as a competent player...but perhaps the most important thing to consider, rather than what to do with a certain hand, is how to exploit or play the given SITUATION in which you find yourself. This is far more important than playing your cards.

     
  9-Apr-17, 20:41   #17
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H4Rm0Ny 

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I registered in this website in 2012 only interested in the free bankrolls.
But now that I play poker for 8 years, I try to gather the most useful info on how to play my hands.
I read a lot about poker everyday in several websites, watch some online streaming of known good poker players and read about opinions of known players as well.

I have finally realized that BankrollMob ain't just about bankrolls and the users really are helpful and interested in discussing their thoughts.

Ty you all ..... for sharing your experiences.

Edited by H4Rm0Ny (Sunday, April 09, 2017 @ 21:49 GMT)


     
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