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I had to learn the hard way too, with cake poker, losing money there. At least i had managed to make a couple of transactions before.
Now that they are gone for ever, it will be better for you, believe me. Cause as long as they were up (site), your hopes were also, which they should be in this situation
And again cashing out often is the key. Just keep the money in necessary to support your usual buy ins. Depositing is always the fastest thing to do somehow when you need more money.
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Yep, this is a sound advice. But of cause this can be difficult to achive. First; one needs access to an e-wallet, or things will be really slow, and transaction fees will hurt.
Second; the transaction limits of that e-wallet shouldn't be to low, or one will run into problems rather fast.
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Posted by Mober: I had to learn the hard way too, with cake poker, losing money there. At least i had managed to make a couple of transactions before.
Now that they are gone for ever, it will be better for you, believe me. Cause as long as they were up (site), your hopes were also, which they should be in this situation
And again cashing out often is the key. Just keep the money in necessary to support your usual buy ins. Depositing is always the fastest thing to do somehow when you need more money.
I will not make a deposit to a small poker room in my life. I lost 421 euros in duck poker but is freeroll money. I'm not upset. In duck poker I have a small deposit of 10 dollars. But I have an withdrawal 156 dollars. Then I felt something wrong and I retired. Then I was wrong but after two years that something wrong proved that I was right. Anyway i have profit 146 dolllars in duck poker
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Some of these sites that have closed, never opened with the intention to scam people. Juts in the way, things didnt work for them as planned and were unable to play the players their money and winnings. But trusting a new coming site now, with low traffic is hard to do, to impossible. One of the reasons we dont see new popping out.
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Posted by Mober: Some of these sites that have closed, never opened with the intention to scam people. Juts in the way, things didnt work for them as planned and were unable to play the players their money and winnings. But trusting a new coming site now, with low traffic is hard to do, to impossible. One of the reasons we dont see new popping out.
I say in another comment duck poker has had the intent from the beginning to cheat players because they had a very big rake and after a while they blocked cash games. Players could no longer gather the necessary points. Of course they had no profit but the poker room or casino still worked. It was clear Duck poker was doing money laundering, fraud and thiefs
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They were paying at the beginning. So this is something that started happening at a later time. I find it hard starting a poker site only to scam people.
And how much money you think they can make like this, if they were about to scam, right from the start. The word gets out too fast, so with the expenses they may even get nothing
Posted by CALICUL: Of course they had no profit but the poker room or casino still worked. It was clear Duck poker was doing money laundering, fraud and thiefs
It was obvious this room was somebodys tax write off at the Bahamas. People need to move on now.
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Posted by bowie1984: It was obvious this room was somebodys tax write off at the Bahamas. People need to move on now.
I have already done so since last year. There duck fraud poker blocked my account in 2016. Now I'm curious what poker rooms exists and do not do the same thing as duck poker. Now i can only play in 3 poker rooms in my country but rest of the players from this world they have to watch if another poker camera do not respect payments for players. If there is one to publish it here that the players see and stop depositing.
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this is end of story and we dont have anythng new to say,its just nothing anybody can do about money,problem or anything!they dont exist anymore and nobody will pay players!I am sorry,but its just how it is!
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I dont think that sites like duck poker make money by cheating on the players at the end. It is just that things went wrong and they couldnt pay the players. I doubt they have made any money out of it. Just a failed business in my opinion.
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Posted by Mober: I dont think that sites like duck poker make money by cheating on the players at the end. It is just that things went wrong and they couldnt pay the players. I doubt they have made any money out of it. Just a failed business in my opinion.
It was a business, but their purpose was to steal and to do money laundering. Duck poker had many freerolls sponsored by facebook and a short period of time by BRM. In 2 years only from facebook have gathered a large sum. They had an excessively high rake and the vip level was very difficult to obtain. I think that poker room has 1 single employee + boss. A misery persons and thiefs.
Haha, I didn't know that Duckpoker steals money from players. Back in 2014, I made a successful cashout there. After 2 days from ordering a withdrawal had passed, I even wrote to support because at that time I thought that 2 days was a very long timeframe. Now I understand that I was very lucky to receive my winnings.
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Well, my opinion is that they were legit when they started. Just things went straight down the drain for them, and coudnt get the money to pay the players. Having a high rake, doesnt mean you are scamming the players. If you are a player who knows the basics, you can easily calculate how much the rake is, and then choose or not to play there.
Joined: Nov '14
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Let me hold you my story about Duck poker, last year i saw the promotion with 20$ free on duck poker, so downloaded the soft and registered with the provided coupon. But when to log in there was an error message saying that my account was blocked and access is denied and to contact the support team at the provided email. I contacted them but i didn t received any answer until this day. So i don t trust this soft even if i never played there or deposited.
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I lost $120 and i´m a cent´s gammer, it´s a big lost! Now again, anybody think that a gammer´s league would work? We need to protect us from the companys that only want get out our money, it isn´t it?
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Posted by Mober: Well, my opinion is that they were legit when they started. Just things went straight down the drain for them, and coudnt get the money to pay the players. Having a high rake, doesnt mean you are scamming the players. If you are a player who knows the basics, you can easily calculate how much the rake is, and then choose or not to play there.
i made one successfull cashout too. my guess is the same, they were just not liquid enough to pay the players.
BUT once they knew this they still let the site run with freerolls and with the shared games with winning poker network. they indirectly stole money from that network too because if a duck player won money from a player of the winning poker network the money went to duck because the duck player couldnt withdraw. they should have closed the site more early and not let players run up bankrolls from freerolls with money that didnt exist!
they are big scam and it would be interesting to find out the name of the person who stand behind duck.
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You have a point there. But at the end you can also blame the network at some point for doing nothing about it. But i guess they were getting their cut from them being operational after all, so why bothering, right?
