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  6-Dec-17, 17:15   #1
Lex Veldhus - folded pocket kings -1 
pajalnick 

Joined: Mar '11
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The Dutchman, like many other professionals, successfully combines the professional career of the player with live broadcasts of his gaming sessions at Twitch.
Lex leads his streams in a relaxed manner with a bunch of funny moments.
Lex has been showing a good strum for a long time and is charging a lot of prizes right on his broadcasts. In one of the last tournaments $ 55 Daily Marathon for action from the opponents, he threw in the pocket kings pocket.
https://clips-media-assets.twitch.tv/159243409.mp4#t=0

     
  6-Dec-17, 23:53   #2
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CALICUL 
Joined: Jan '14
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Folded well because A come in all the time when you have KK QQ JJ. Almost always you lose with KK. If lex veldhuis call all stack gone. Had a good stack and chances for a much better position.

     
  7-Dec-17, 06:28   #3
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DaCapo71 
Joined: Aug '10
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I played well, because the Flop shows him only the chance of the second best hand. Perhaps he must do a higher preflop raise against the opponents or must play verry agressive. Or he had good reads about the other player.

     
  9-Dec-17, 21:55   #4
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
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well all I can say is that I had the honor of sitting at one virtual pokerstars table with lex veldhuis or whatever he is called, probably the main reason I remember this because he was the only pro I shared any poker table with, nothing special but still a nice memory for me personally

     
  9-Dec-17, 22:12   #5
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
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He has reason to think about and then fol with the chips in.
And having KK doesnt mean you are going to win every all in prefop you get into it.
How many i have lost, usually from A rags Smile
It was a good fold after all Kept him in the game.

     
  10-Dec-17, 09:13   #6
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CALICUL 
Joined: Jan '14
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Posted by DaCapo71:
I played well, because the Flop shows him only the chance of the second best hand. Perhaps he must do a higher preflop raise against the opponents or must play verry agressive. Or he had good reads about the other player.


well DaCapo71 it seems that someone does not agree with our opinions and we both received a minus vote. I know from my own experience when i playing in pokerstars. I'm just referring to tournaments here. I lost many times when I had KK or QQ, JJ. The rivals call with ace and winning in 90% of cases. Very frustrating but it's the true for me.

     
  10-Dec-17, 09:16   #7
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LIKEIT27 
Joined: Jul '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 758
I am proud off this dutch guy,...
And u know the pics i showed in the hot babe section Fatima,..
Thats his Girlfriend Heart a nice couple for sure and they can play both poker like pro's Worship

     
  10-Dec-17, 19:39   #8
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TheMachineQC 

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The only way you can fold KK pre flop profitably is if you know the player against you most likely has aces. That means you have to know how he plays and has to be a tight player. It's not a play I recommend doing because you may regret folding that later when you're carddead and end up shoving some marginal hand to stay alive.

So, was Lex right to fold the kings?

     
  10-Dec-17, 22:44   #9
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
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It depends also on your position, stack etc, when playing in a tournament..
If you have callers that can kick you out of the tournament is not the same decision.
It is much harder to call. But if you can still be in the game after a loss, thats another story Smile

     
  11-Dec-17, 16:20   #10
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Ingrind33 

Joined: Sep '15
Location: Netherlands
Age: 35 (F)
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Lex Veldhuis is a good player, he is really Dutch what makes him hungry for profit. He is the kind of guy that still gets totally hyper over a few dollar profit, while he makes thousands. If you have this characteristic it can be futile, because your greed overpowers your reasoning, but not with him. he is even streaming for money, he gets a few dollars for subscriptions so this guy is literately grinding every penny he can get. I hope in the future he can help the planet with his money. GL all! Thumbs Up

     
  11-Dec-17, 17:00   #11
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StheP 

Joined: Oct '14
Location: Serbia
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its a bad fold... exept he had like super read on player... KK only lose to 6 combination of AA which is hard to have... anyway dont know if I should congratulate... but folding KK in this situation is -EV for sure in long run...

     
  13-Dec-17, 12:19   #12
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LIKEIT27 
Joined: Jul '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 758
Posted by Ingrind33:
Lex Veldhuis is a good player, he is really Dutch what makes him hungry for profit. He is the kind of guy that still gets totally hyper over a few dollar profit, while he makes thousands. If you have this characteristic it can be futile, because your greed overpowers your reasoning, but not with him. he is even streaming for money, he gets a few dollars for subscriptions so this guy is literately grinding every penny he can get. I hope in the future he can help the planet with his money. GL all! Thumbs Up



He learns from Fatima a lot ,...and the learn a lot from eachother,..
Soo hads off to both,..and i am proud that they from the Netherlands,..
We dont have many good poker pro's ,..
but the people we have in that they are good and very nice,..
And always respectfull to other payers Thumbs Up

     
  13-Dec-17, 13:09   #13
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 4788
This all talk remembered me of an ancient theme people used to chat around here: how to play each hand? And how to play KK? Well, i'm not going to discuss it here right now, but we all know it depends on your position, your stack vs opponents' stack at the moment, how have you seen your opponents play up to that point of the game...

     
  13-Dec-17, 14:06   #14
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xxxpokerxxx1 

Joined: May '08
Location: Canada
Age: 41 (M)
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another copy and paste,it must be very hard to post original story's. I got try this copy paste,thing and get points for it Blink Cool Big Smile

     
  13-Dec-17, 15:45   #15
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pajalnick 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Russian Federation
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 4095
I tried to remember at least one occasion when I threw such cards ..... there were no such cases on my memory .... there were cases when I discarded such cards when an ace or a couple of other cards already lay on the table but in such a position there was never .... I should learn to play of course

     
  13-Dec-17, 23:35   #16
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 11735
Well i have folded kings before, even aces, but it was just before the money,
in tournaments with last places paying good.
Otherwise its an all in with no second thoughts.
And its not once or twice that i have lost with KK or AA all ins just before the money Smile

     
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