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Bad Beat Jackpot Winner Avi Shamir to receive $62K Reward as Affirmed by NGCB

Tags: bad beat jackpot, Las Vegas, Nevada Gaming Control Board, Red Rock Resort
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2018 by "T".
For poker players and fans out there, bad beat jackpots are quite the rare occurrence, but it does happen. But what if you're supposed to win money from a bad beat jackpot and the casino refuses to pay you? This is the dilemma that a certain poker player was in, and this happened back in December 2017. Avinoam Shamir, age 83, was dealt with a bad beat that was ill, lost the hand with a straight f[...]   Read more » Bad Beat Jackpot Winner Avi Shamir to receive $62K Reward as Affirmed by NGCB

  15-Feb-18, 08:57   #1
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doubletop777 
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I am glad that common sense has prevailed and these players' will get their money. It must have been an exciting time when they thought they had won but it must have been a horrible feeling when they said they wouldn't pay out.

     
  15-Feb-18, 12:23   #2
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pajalnick 

Joined: Mar '11
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the casino has so many tricks to not pay players their winnings ..... it's certainly very sad .... well that there are organizations that defend the player's rights so that the casino is not insolent very strongly ..... but as I understood from the article The remaining players do not yet know about the win or not

     
  15-Feb-18, 13:33   #3
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Mober 
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Technicality or not it is the rules.
And you are not supposed to show your cards ever.
That is a rule, with the cards reaching the showdown.
It wont be easy getting the money and if he does, the casino will have done him a favor.

     
  15-Feb-18, 13:42   #4
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CALICUL 
Joined: Jan '14
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categorical feeling is a frustration when the casino refuses to pay the jackpot shared to the players. I'm glad because this control committee he does his job with fairness. I hope this Avinoam Shamir 83 years to enjoy a little bit of money earned by him. 60 k dollars is an interesting sum.

     
  15-Feb-18, 14:27   #5
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bowie1984 

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I really don't know why brick and mortar casinos have bad beat jackpots, I mean it is nice when you have it online but it is already hard to provide all the technicality for their payouts so I cannot imagine how much more troubling to do the same in real life. No wonder the casino did not wanted to shell out cash.

     
  15-Feb-18, 20:34   #6
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Sandmanilo 
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These bad beat jackpots happen so rare, especially in live games, that the management of this casino could close their eyes for a little violation of rules, especially given the age of the winner. This decision would significantly increase the trust in this casino. But they chose the other solution. I would never go there after this accident.

     
  15-Feb-18, 23:06   #7
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godoy 
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because well this formula has been used by all the casinos and poker houses in the world I wonder not want to pay when you win this and an outrage and deserve to pay double the respect respect above everything

     
  16-Feb-18, 13:50   #8
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Mober 
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They must be making extra money by having the bad bead jackpot.
An at the end is not hard for them to watch over it.
Not that it happens like every other day.
Then it just come to the rules and if everyone has followed them.

     
  16-Feb-18, 15:11   #9
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pajalnick 

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today I read a similar story with other data ... In Louisiana, the poker dealer and his friend were arrested on fraud charges after trying to arrange a raffle of a bad beat jackpot of $ 166,471. 61-year-old dealer Ashley Solomon tampered the cards so that his friend, 51-year-old Dale Foret, lost with the required by the rules of the bad beat jackpot combination of quads.

     
  16-Feb-18, 15:44   #10
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bowie1984 

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Posted by pajalnick:
61-year-old dealer Ashley Solomon tampered the cards so that his friend, 51-year-old Dale Foret, lost with the required by the rules of the bad beat jackpot combination of quads.

How could you tamper with anything when most of these places using machines to operate the decks.

     
  16-Feb-18, 23:42   #11
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godoy 
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today I read other things about this case and it seems to me that you won the action against the casino where the prize was won with everything I do not know why the casino in question contested the prize more now it was already paid avo akkkkk

     
  17-Feb-18, 14:12   #12
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Mober 
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If he has taken the money or not, considering the rules that casino's have, he shouldnt have got
the money.
Although i find it hard for a player having quads, folding the hand, no matter what the bet is.
So revealing his cards, didnt change the outcome possibly. Smile

     
  18-Feb-18, 12:34   #13
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pochui 

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well I guess it's nice to eventually receive 30k when you probably think that all is lost and there is no real chance to fight against the house. maybe this situation is not the clearest of all but things are settled regarding one player and the rest will follow.

     
  19-Feb-18, 03:24   #14
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bowie1984 

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Posted by pochui:
... maybe this situation is not the clearest of all but things are settled regarding one player and the rest will follow.

Yeah, but this was settled 'cuz a gambling authority within Nevada was reviewed the case - who knows how many more similar instances happening weeks in and out elsewhere and nobody is doing anything about them because they don't know better.

     
  22-Feb-18, 11:59   #15
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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I wish I was at the poker table when this thing happened! I used to live in the vicinity of Red Rock Casino Resort, one of the upscale casinos off the Vegas Strip. It is about a 10-minute walking distance from my old home. I wasn't a poker player back then, but one of my housemates would play a cash game there on the weekend.

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Thursday, February 22, 2018 @ 12:35 GMT)


     
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