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I'm noticing the beginning of each session the blinds 10-20 I caught a couple of JJ as go sit is 0,25c 45 people many bad players end up taking you out of the game making plays clueless when I paid in all of them know I'm gaining more pre flop ever hit the 20% of the fish. Another situation is when re increase bets end up losing anyway making bets on the flop and all in on the turn and the villain insisted to pay the high and ends up hitting on the river moves without logic of opponents who end up giving right ????
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JJ is a danger hand in the first levels when the fishes are swimming and anyone could go all in with Ax...and win! I playing this hand like all the pairs until KK+, in some board QQ has a risk in the first stage. I make a limp and if someone makes an open raise, I call if it is about 1/15 of my stack and wait for the flop to Fit or Fold
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TT and JJ are tricky hands to play, while they are strong starting handa, they are not that strong. And a lot of flops will not be to the liking of the player holding them. At low blinds it is best to play smaller pots with them, unless one hits a set. At high blinds one will end up all in preflop a lot of the time.
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It is a good pair, but many times the flop ruins things for you. Probably one of the high pairs that i had the most losses so far, in preflop all in situations. And slow playing them, wasnt any better either It also depends on the game and the stack you have.
I fully agree with maragatero and shokaku. JJ and TT only preflop attractive hands. But if you're not hooked on the flop, these hands are almost of no value in the future. And with them you can lose a lot if you drag them into the dead.
------------ All the more Sng on 0.25 on 45 man on Stars. There is almost always a very tight play
it all depends on what stage the tournament is in ... if this is a tournament .... if this is the very beginning of the tournament, then you can take a chance and bet all in .... You can also bet When you are already in prizes .... Of course there are 2 jacks far from the best hand .... any Queen Lady or an ace on the hands of an opponent interrupt your hand .... Well, in general, I act on the situation
Once again, I got the program with jacks, so this is probably the worst thing that was in the end. Damn I had 750 dollars and now 0 dollars is very terrible unpleasant.
------------ Yes, it really is to get the first place, but I made 4 entries as a result of 5 dollars 50 cents. Therefore, if I had not won the first place, it would have been useless movements but for some reason it seemed to me at that moment that I should try to make the next entry and It all turned out as I planned for good luck right away, dear friend. I hope you also get good wins.
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Posted by maragatero: JJ is a danger hand in the first levels when the fishes are swimming and anyone could go all in with Ax...and win! I playing this hand like all the pairs until KK+, in some board QQ has a risk in the first stage. I make a limp and if someone makes an open raise, I call if it is about 1/15 of my stack and wait for the flop to Fit or Fold
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Edited by pajalnick (29 December 2018 @ 05:30 GMT)
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In early stages it s better to avoid big risks with hands like JJ. In the beginning I like to play them as I play my other low pocket pairs which means … Try to see the flop as cheap as possible and then it s play or fold…
If later in the SNG/tourney it depends on your stack vs the others, position at table; etc. but still try to avoid big allin unless your shortstack.
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Posted by Max1403: I'm noticing the beginning of each session the blinds 10-20 I caught a couple of JJ as go sit is 0,25c 45 people many bad players end up taking you out of the game making plays clueless when I paid in all of them know I'm gaining more pre flop ever hit the 20% of the fish. Another situation is when re increase bets end up losing anyway making bets on the flop and all in on the turn and the villain insisted to pay the high and ends up hitting on the river moves without logic of opponents who end up giving right ????
the simpliest answer and without going into in depth strategys: just like any other hand. poker starts on flop.
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Any hand in Hold'em should start before the flop. And actually, JJ isn't a hand i like to see a flop with. If the hand can be decided before the flop, it is good enough for me. One should just not overdo it, neither preflop, nor after the flop.
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JJ is like every other hand and ofcourse you cant play slow before preflop,you must raise something to push other players from pot,who have weak hands!you dont want that somebody pay you with 5 6 and then to hit something good at table!you must push before flop!
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i call those hands ; ''tunnelhands'' you end up walking in a tunnel,,no way out,,if flophits overcards..
still i do play them 95% of the time..preflop i 3 bet most of the time with those,see what action i get..
stay cautious if i get called..but will try to win the pot that's build..
My advise : better see a flop and decide after flop how to proceed ..instead of a preflop allin ,getting called by a mediocre hand and lose all chips.
Preflop all in does not work for me .
by seeing the flop in many situations you can still win the hand even if opponent has a stronger startinghand..suppose you have jacks and villain has Q-Q if flop hits 9-k-A you can always turn it into a bluff and get the Q-Q to fold
Yes, it really is to get the first place, but I made 4 entries as a result of 5 dollars 50 cents. Therefore, if I had not won the first place, it would have been useless movements but for some reason it seemed to me at that moment that I should try to make the next entry and It all turned out as I planned for good luck right away, dear friend. I hope you also get good wins.
