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Russian Banks Now Implement Payment Ban to Offshore Gambling Operators

Tags: Russia, Sberbank, Vladimir Putin.
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2018 by "T".

The bill signed by Vladimir Putin over a year ago is now baring its fangs, with state-owned Sberbank now coldly rejecting transactions to offshore gambling sites and ewallets.

Russia's move to make banks and payment processing companies ban online gambling payments is now in full swing as state-owned and the biggest bank in Russia Sberbank has confirmed that it will no longer allow the processing of online transactions involving blacklisted offshore gambling websites.

On October 19, Federal Law No. 244 (which concerns state regulation in the field of gambling) amendments are now rolling in action, with Sberbank stepping in and becoming the first central bank to block all payments made by plastic cards to offshore gambling operators.

According to Russian media news outlet Rambler, Sberbank issued a statement confirming its decision to restrict payment processing to unlicensed foreign gambling sites. It states, "According to Federal Law No. 244, payments by cards in favor of foreign institutions involved in the organization and conduct of gambling are prohibited. Sberbank always complies with the laws of the Russian Federation and the regulations of the regulatory authorities. At the same time, Sberbank does not limit payments using bank cards to gambling establishments in Russia."

Other banks noted to also limit such payments are VTB and Tinkoff Bank. A spokesperson for VTB said that the bank will implement all the necessary technical measures to identify whether the money transfer will go to online casinos and therefore prevent it from happening.

How does the bank investigate? To see if the foreign entity is indeed a gambling company, the bank checks the payee code assigned by the payment system. Furthermore, there will be a list made consisting of persons associated with illegal (based on Russian laws) gambling businesses. The special black list is provided by the Federal Tax Service. Although, the updated list hasn't been compiled as of yet.

Some experts say that even if the updated list is produced and the number of banks blocking transfers increase, gamblers will find other ways to bet/pay gambling sites abroad, for instance, by using cryptocurrencies or intermediaries.

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 Mober11/7/2018 1:11:09 PM GMT
For some reason, this is not news. Just another country marching in, with new laws that take
effect, trying to ban online gambling.
It is like a deja vu with what has happened here.
After everything is done, with the new law, you will see changes in the gambling world
inside the country, with local casino businesses expanding new establishments, etc, etc....
 shokaku11/7/2018 1:44:55 PM GMT
The usual thing. The state wants to tax the gambling activities, but can only do it inside its borders. So every option to play or bet outside the country (and its tax regime) is targeted. Next will be the e wallets. Maybe we see increased use of cryptos in Russia over the next month
 pajalnick11/8/2018 4:33:20 AM GMT
but for me this is far from news to me .... I have known about this for a long time ... because it directly concerns me ... Yes, it is very sad that now you cannot make a deposit directly from a bank card and get money back ... you have to use Qiwi wallet is still in WebMoney as a backup option ... The sad thing is ... it makes life difficult for people
 doubletop77711/8/2018 9:17:39 AM GMT
I really do not understand why they would want to try and ban online gambling. If you are of legal age, you should be able to gamble freely. I really hope that they can come to some sort of resolution that suits everybody
 shokaku11/8/2018 10:07:55 AM GMT
They do not want to ban it outright, they just want to tax it. You know, the "fair share" of the state. And as any country, they can only enforce taxation in their own jurisdiction. So they try to shut down any competition from outside. so one can expect the e wallets to be the next target
 CALICUL11/8/2018 1:10:58 PM GMT
I agree with the legality of gambling, but i do not agree with the Russians who will try other illegal methods to making deposits. As long as a poker room is legal, everything is very good. The problem is in poker rooms, who do not want to pay licenses, but they want money. You do not pay the license, you do not earn money and Russia has a large market for players. If they do not pay, they will lose.
 Gerimantas11/8/2018 1:40:10 PM GMT
Yes not very good situation to people who play in poker rooms or casino or sports vetting that is outside of russia and now have no way to transfer money of make withdraw. But i too think people find some way to play and move money
 Mober11/8/2018 2:00:53 PM GMT
That is exactly the situation. They do not care to ban the game, they do care to tax
the whole thing.
And how they can do that, by banning the sites, selling licenses and asking the operators
to get a local tax number, in order to hit them on the head.
Plus the agenda they are having for the local market.
It is either one of them, or both of them. I would go for both of them, comparing it, to what
has happened here...
 dule-vu11/8/2018 2:18:20 PM GMT
how everything change is few years and now another country who will not allow to players to play online games from other countries!I understand that they want that players only play companies from russia and who pay taxes in their coutry,but still this isnt great move for all players!
 bowie198411/8/2018 5:49:18 PM GMT
Good luck to them, they just pushed the whole side of this kind of microeconomy into buying crypto to do transaction with offshore sites from now on. Damn these people are stupid isn't it? No more tax references, no more transparency.
 pajalnick11/9/2018 4:40:44 AM GMT
Posted by dule-vu:
how everything change is few years and now another country who will not allow to players to play online games from other countries!I understand that they want that players only play companies from russia and who pay taxes in their coutry,but still this isnt great move for all players!

If it were so ... but in our country gambling is prohibited everywhere .... there are only a few zones in the whole country ... where you can play gambling ... but in order to play you have to go quite far .. Of course I won't do it ..... it's easier to play online .... instead of taking taxes from the winnings, they decided to just ban everything ... idiots .... well, what else is a loophole in the form of a QIWI wallet and Webmoney Worship
 CALICUL11/9/2018 1:12:11 PM GMT
They do not care of course, but for the all redoubtable poker rooms counts too much. Russian players are the most in the world who are currently playing at pokerstars, 888 poker or party poker. If these rooms lose these russian players, the flood will come for them, if americans do not return to the tables after their period of restriction that still exists. Without russians or americans online poker is dead 80% i think. The prizes will be low and many players will abandon this game.
 Mober11/10/2018 11:02:47 AM GMT
pajalnick, it was like this here also. You could only gamble in a casino.
But after all the changes and the law they passed with banning many sites, since they
didnt get the license, one morning.... the amendment came, permitting in all of them that had betting
shops, to put slots in, and not only, since you can open a shop with only slots in and nothing else.

In other words, the fact that is prohibited now, doesnt mean it will be in the future also.
I believe we are talking about politics and politicians here, so ... Smile
 dule-vu11/10/2018 12:18:00 PM GMT
pajalnick this make you lot of problems with this and would be good that they dont ban online betting,gaming and everything else!who know what next decision from them will be,maybe they will restrict also this on some way!so many restrictions in todays world!
 CALICUL11/11/2018 1:34:44 PM GMT
It is clear that this thing, is only about politicians and their wars.
They do not respect the populations of countries and they make decisions that affect many citizens.
I am sure the restrictions imposed on Russia have broken many stable connections.
Probably these things will adjust in the future. Blink
 Mober11/12/2018 12:34:39 PM GMT
We are about to see more changes in the future and that is for sure.
More countries will follow with such measures, making it even more difficult for the
operators.
With this new law the amount of russian players will decrease significantly probably,
in all the sites.
Lets see now who will be the next nation everyone will whine about Smile
 CALICUL11/12/2018 1:35:09 PM GMT
If the Russian players are restricted and automatically will not play, many games and many freerolls will disappear and the online poker will be dead guaranteed.
Players will no longer make deposits for some unattractive prizes and it will be very bad.
I hope this thing does not happen.
 dule-vu11/13/2018 2:21:19 PM GMT
in my country you have lot of online casino sites,which also have betting shops in whole country,so you can take money online or in shop!and there are no tax on casino games as they have on betting,so this very good!but still I can play on lot of famous online sites and they have better slots then local sites!
 Mober11/13/2018 2:32:27 PM GMT
They will find alternate methods of payment though.
From what we read it is only the bank transactions that they have blocked,
which translates they are still free to play in the sites, since there is no banning from the ISP's
for the gambling sites, internet addresses.
Maybe that is going to be another step, later on...
 shokaku11/13/2018 4:52:06 PM GMT
Yep. As long as only the transactions are banned the samrt players will find a way to continue playing at the sites they want to play at. Just look at the situation in the US of A where the legal issues are similar, and there are still sites open to players from there.
 Nightkid11/14/2018 12:06:22 PM GMT
I think that everywhere happens that just as everyone knows that leaves a lot of money, in my city step that was banned the issue of games of chance (poker machines, roulettes, slots, etc.) and began to close all places and began to open clandestine places of games ... but well at that time some silver I could do hahaha Tongue Tongue Tongue
 CALICUL11/14/2018 1:37:21 PM GMT
If you talk to the players in Sua i need to say that: In America there are a few states where online poker is legal.
I remember about Nevada ( where is the famous Las Vegas ) and New Jersey.
I do not know the name of the third but in 2017 a fourth state has received the consent to legalize online poker.
4 states that will multiply in future.
I would like all states of America to come back at the tables in online poker.
 Mober11/14/2018 2:46:22 PM GMT
That measure is a plus for all the alternate methods of payments.
There are many ewallets out there, that must be pleased wit the new law.
Cryptocoins also can do the trick.
The bitcoin is stable for quite some time now at about 6500 USD.
Some predict a rapid growth by the end of the year Smile
 CALICUL11/17/2018 2:23:02 PM GMT
If the law of Russia prohibits many transactions to online poker rooms, then the Russians have nothing to do, as long as their accounts in the poker rooms, are carefully checked and transactions are blocked even from outside of the country.
Only russian players can request an evaluation and unlocking the rights to play poker. Smile
 Mober11/17/2018 8:26:17 PM GMT
Well the bitcoin was stable, It had a sudden from for 1k USD, who knows why Smile
A massive drop for the level it is now. Not a good thing for all the ones having coins.
The same way not good for all gambling sites using them as payment,
since many may have rushed to convert it.
 sohelbd7711/17/2018 9:56:11 PM GMT
I do not understand why Bankrollmob restrict these freeroll poker tournament, we have been playing this poker tournament regularly and this is one of the best way to practice poker games. In fact i have been learn so much thing by playing this tournament. I have sent several messages to party poker authority and at the end they said: it was not possible to play.
 pajalnick11/18/2018 1:28:05 PM GMT
if the Epoch for online poker is over for me it will be awful ..... for me all life on the Internet for me is associated with playing poker ..... Of course for me this is a hobby ...... But this is a hobby already has become so much a part of my life that it will be impossible to abandon it ....... if Russian laws close the last loophole, you will probably have to immigrate to neighboring Belarus
 CALICUL11/18/2018 2:59:24 PM GMT
Sohelbd77, you make a mistake here.
The BankrollMob freeroll games or with buy-in are for everyone.
Those who restrict these BRM games are poker rooms.
In my country were partially restricted in 2016 and total in 2017 or first months of 2018.
The reason was not said but i think these poker rooms encourage deposits.
The only solution would be BRM to speak with administrators of poker rooms and cancel these restrictions of free BRM games or BRM with buy-in. Smile
 maragatero11/19/2018 3:07:24 AM GMT
In everywhere the governments are trying to do something with the poker online. Almost always they try to banned or makes difficult to play with others countries like EEUU and Spain. But this is like cover the sun with your hands. The people will find a way to do what they want. The limits and the illegality only build an opportunity to the crime Sad
 Mober11/20/2018 11:42:11 AM GMT
I do not agree with this. From examples all over the world and experience here in greece,
if governments want to do the extra step with poker and online gambling in general,
you cant do much about it at the end. Especially when they start forcing ISP's,
to ban sites.
The only thing you can do if you are serious about it, is to find another country to move on.
Still things are not that bad for russians.
 CALICUL11/20/2018 3:02:17 PM GMT
Moving to a country, only to play poker is not an adequate solution.
A good and quick solution is for poker players to protest and to get the right to get in touch with those who blocked these games.
Then the best orators of these players, need to talk and to prove that these games deserve to enter into legality, to be played by Russian citizens.
 bowie198411/20/2018 8:18:59 PM GMT
Posted by CALICUL:
Moving to a country, only to play poker is not an adequate solution.
A good and quick solution is for poker players to protest and to get the right to get in touch with those who blocked these games.

Very hard to apply work visas anywhere on the basis that you are a poker-pro IMO. I mean I doubt the USA appreciates the fact Smile
 CALICUL11/22/2018 3:19:03 PM GMT
There is another comparison between Russians and Americans.
Now depending on what their laws say.
Americans play live poker in Sua and in other countries including Europe or Asia.
About the Russians do not know too much things but i know that: Igor Kurganov plays poker and is Russian.
Maybe just because he is under contract with Pokerstars. Confused
 Mober11/23/2018 11:21:28 AM GMT
Even if you are in the lowest bar of the poker professional player, which means,
you make your leaving out of it, when something like that happens, you just migrate.
You dont have to look for a work, in your chosen country, you just have to continue doing
what you were doing before.
And if you move for example between europe countries, you dont even have problems
with visas etc.
 CALICUL11/24/2018 3:30:10 PM GMT
It's not so easy to move to a foreign country.
Not all Russian poker players professionals or not can make a profit from poker.
They will have to work, to pay the house rent after they left their family and friends.
Then they will try to make money from poker.
Is very hard because there are too many poker players.
Most of them will not leave Russia to play poker.
If it was easy, all professionals from Russia would have left his native country to play poker in other countries.
 Mober11/25/2018 10:47:52 AM GMT
If you can make money from playing poker in one country, then you can do the same
in another country also.
The only thing that changes, and can turn this to a no viable solution, is the cost of living.
If the country you are about to move has a higher cost then it means, your expenses would,
be more thus less profit.
 CALICUL11/26/2018 3:33:04 PM GMT
As a professional player you can make money with the fish, but since Russia has restrictions on poker, not all players can play with success.
A few pro players they will leave the country, but the rest who want to play, what can they do? Nothing, if does not speak to do request and the right to play live poker, as i said in another comment.
 maragatero11/27/2018 1:42:20 AM GMT
Yes, the poker`players seems like the water, ever find the way to keep moving. And if someone it encloses us in a dam, sooner or later we blow it up! In a world with e-wallet and cripto currence, some official strategy is really unable to shut this move. it would be better if they devote themselves to fighting structural corruption
 CALICUL11/28/2018 3:34:24 PM GMT
You can not fight with structural corruption because you do not have guns and there are many traitors with guns.
You can fight legally and if you win, you will get the right to play live poker.
This thing must be done by the Russian players.
If they do this, they have a good chances. Smile
 pajalnick11/28/2018 8:26:35 PM GMT
a few days ago I made a deposit with a kiwi wallet .... it works .... that is, so far there is a loophole so that you can deposit and withdraw money from poker sites .... I don’t know how long it will last .... I would like a little .... Because if I restrict myself completely I will be just in shock
 CALICUL11/29/2018 3:35:21 PM GMT
You can not deposit with regular cards like as electron visa?
or the law of Russia has banned this?
If you make a mistake, you are liable to the fin?
I asked these questions and i do not know if you will answer, but i hope someone from Russia to answer how serious the situation is with the live or online poker.
 dule-vu11/30/2018 12:51:00 PM GMT
at least you have some option to deposit or to make cashout from this sites,but who know till when this will last,because russian goverment will find this way in future and will stop every way of deposits in foreign gambling site!but good luck till then!
 Mober11/30/2018 1:28:44 PM GMT
You will have to watch the whole thing closely.
You dont want to miss, the chance of getting your money back from the deposits
along with any winnings you may have.
Make sure you are not leaving too much money in any site.
Better safe than sorry Smile
 pajalnick11/30/2018 9:16:23 PM GMT
Posted by CALICUL:
You can not deposit with regular cards like as electron visa?
or the law of Russia has banned this?
If you make a mistake, you are liable to the fin?
I asked these questions and i do not know if you will answer, but i hope someone from Russia to answer how serious the situation is with the live or online poker.

I am answering your question .... yes exactly ..... now the banks are blocking deposits and withdrawing money to a casino or online poker .... these are the sad laws .... you have to use additional tools .... like virtual wallets .... it is still working ... I do not know how long it will last .... But of course all this is very sad .... maybe something will change in the future
 CALICUL12/1/2018 3:37:26 PM GMT
It's really bad what's going on and sad.
Nobody fight with Putin to change something.
I do not know what he thinks, but i hope not to start a war with Sua.
Something is happening and they are silent.
Maybe it's just the fault of the Russians gamblers, who lose more money, than they earn and the government wants to keep money in the country, for the Russia economy. Confused
 Mober12/1/2018 7:55:41 PM GMT
If you can still use online wallets, and you are able to play in all the sites, or at least
most of them, then the damage was not that big.
If they go this one step further, it may get uglier Smile
But again, be sure to keep an eye on all the developments.
You dont want not to be updated on the subject, if you keep money in Smile
 pajalnick12/1/2018 9:23:30 PM GMT
Posted by Mober:
If you can still use online wallets, and you are able to play in all the sites, or at least
most of them, then the damage was not that big.
If they go this one step further, it may get uglier Smile
But again, be sure to keep an eye on all the developments.
You dont want not to be updated on the subject, if you keep money in Smile

the problem will only arise if e-wallets oblige to share information with officials .... and there are blocking on deposits and withdrawal of funds from the casino online poker .... such a problem may arise .... it's Russia .... and banned .... very unpleasant situation Aww crap!
 CALICUL12/2/2018 3:38:31 PM GMT
If you had friends outside of Russia, with accounts in those poker rooms which allows the transfer of money between players, would be ideal for you.
If the laws not change in the meantime, it will be increasingly worse.
These laws are designed to destroy, instead of helping. Sad
 pajalnick12/2/2018 9:26:25 PM GMT
Posted by CALICUL:
If you had friends outside of Russia, with accounts in those poker rooms which allows the transfer of money between players, would be ideal for you.
If the laws not change in the meantime, it will be increasingly worse.
These laws are designed to destroy, instead of helping. Sad

there is a country near Belarus .... any casinos and any poker sites are allowed there ... maybe try to live there .... although I really love my city St. Petersburg and I don’t want to go anywhere from here .... Ok .. we live ... let's see what happens next .... maybe something will change for the better .... maybe
 CALICUL12/3/2018 3:44:12 PM GMT
I think Sankt Petersburg it's beautiful.
I saw your city, in hitman 2 game... Cool and through movies or the internet.
Unfortunately laws for people do not help, but for clever boys or oligarchs, the law does not apply too much.
I would like things to change in Europe and Americans, Spaniards, French, Italians, Poles, Australians, Asia, or Africa to be able to play with the rest of the world. Cool

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