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Hendon Mob succumbs to Privacy Laws, Allows Deletion of Poker Player Accounts

Tags: GDPR, Global Poker Index, Hendon Mob.
Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 by "T".

The world's largest information provider of poker tournament results has succumbed to the pressure from both regulators and players, and it will now allow its users to delete, or at least rename, their accounts.

The Hendon Mob apparently has not made any official announcements about this change last week; however, users are now allowed to either change the alias on their account so that others will not know who it is, or if they would like to do so, they can delete their user account entirely.

This move has come to light in response to a new set of laws created by the European Union known as General Data Protection Regulations (GDPR). The new statutes, which were passed in May 25, aim to protect the data privacy information for residents of the 28 EU states.

Even if Hendon Mob looks like it is playing it safe and succumbing to the new regulations, there are still lots of questions as to whether the poker-results listing website is essentially collecting and displaying private data.

Invasion of Privacy or Not?
The website's main objective is to collect and display tournament results that come from the poker tournaments, events and casinos as well as the companies that run them.

However, for some individuals like German poker pro Armin "schmette" Mette, that equates to an invasion of privacy, and he wrote in a 2+2 forum thread, "After years of abusive data-collection, Hendon Mob is now forced ... to delete your accounts if you want to."

The Hendon Mob's poker content manager Roland Boothby responded "Not so" and explained that the site is simply aggregating data that has already been publicly released by the poker tours and casinos. He retorted, "By publishing the results and pay outs of major tournaments, Hendon Mob is no more guilty of ‘abusive data-collection' then the APT or the PGA."

Boothby continued on to say that it is "deeply sad" to see some players rejoicing to the fact that a significant blow was dealt to a small business so that certain people can reap benefits.

Mixed Reactions
There will always be two sides to a coin, and this topic of poker results privacy is no exception. While some are commending the increased privacy features, most poker players are mentioning the irrational logic behind the newly implemented rules. One poster in the 2+2 forum wrote, "So it's fine for the World Poker Tour to publish results of their tournaments. But a no-no if I write a blog summarizing those results?"

Another forum poster wrote, "When you register a tournament in a casino it should be expected for your name to appear in chip counts lists, in blog posts, and possibly in pictures and live streams. I think finding loopholes around this is an unreasonable expectation of privacy in a context where it doesn't make sense to expect it in any form."

On Twitter another player said, "Poker is no different than any other open competition. Results are public domain."

Another player thinks otherwise, as he wrote in the forum, "Because grownups with real jobs might not want it public that they play poker. Or how much they've won / how often they play... People should be allowed to play poker and not have it posted to the Internet for everyone to see. I am a huge fan of this move. I've personally been asked by employers about it because all you see when you Google me are poker results. And even though players see poker differently, you have to consider public perception, and that 99% of people don't consider it a legitimate game of skill or intellect but just gambling, and that doesn't look good to a lot of people."

Acquired by the Global Poker Index (GPI) in 2013, the Hendon Mob website gathers results from many casinos as well as poker tournaments and events. The site currently holds profiles of nearly 560,000 players, information on 368,732 events, and over 2.5 million results. The site was founded by UK poker pros Ram Vaswani, Joe Beevers, and brothers Barney and Ross Boatman in 2000.

Of course, The Hendon Mob isn't the only website that collects and displays data from poker tourneys. There are other websites that display similar databases for the entire world to see; however, since they are not based in the EU, then there's really no need for them to change their privacy policies anytime in the near future.

Companies based in the EU that do not follow the new regulations can be penalized as high as $23 million (€20 million or £16.5 million).

Applies to European Players Only
Take note that the new regulations only apply to European players, who can request to Hendon Mob administrators via email support that their existing account be renamed with a nickname, or they can delete their account entirely, should they choose to do so.

On the other hand, this means that Hendon Mob may not delete accounts for US players.

Speculations
It is strongly believed that several European-based poker players were not happy that the Hendon Mob site was bringing unwanted extra attention from the taxman. For instance, it has been reported in the past that Israeli tax authorities have used sites such as The Hendon Mob to keep track of poker tax cheats and bring them to justice.

Also, another possibility is that European poker players do not like their results be publicized simply because they don't want their backers to know about it.

Source:
https://www.pokernews.com/news/2018/09/european-law-forces-hendon-mob-offer-account-deletion-32010.htm

 


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13 comments for "Hendon Mob succumbs to Privacy Laws, Allows Deletion of Poker Player Accounts"

 doubletop7779/11/2018 7:43:48 AM GMT
I think that this is a good thing and cannot see why it hasn't happened before now. If you do not want your results known, you just delete them from now on which must be a good thing
 arsenej19/11/2018 2:11:47 PM GMT
Dont see any problem with it. I have my account locked out for pokerstars from sites like sharkscope n such myself
 Mober9/11/2018 3:04:17 PM GMT
I know it is helpful for many players to see stats from other players, but this is actually,
the way it should have been in the first place.
You want stats? Take your own. This way it will be harder finding the info for every single player.
Less giveaways that way. Better for the players.
 rogan110009/11/2018 3:53:53 PM GMT
I dressage with previous comments, on top shark pro I sin in for showing my stats and pocket fives... Why not?
Like I hiding something important or so
 dule-vu9/11/2018 5:07:21 PM GMT
well you have right to have privacy,especially in world that we live today!I understand when you play live tournaments and when company where you play use results from tournaments and who won what prize,but why should other companies have every hand that your play!?
 pajalnick9/11/2018 5:58:38 PM GMT
of course it is unreasonable that some companies have access to the games of the players .... it makes it possible to use this information for criminal actions .... with this phenomenon it is necessary to fight and not allow any companies to dispose of confidential information .... no
 CALICUL9/11/2018 7:15:17 PM GMT
I do not care if this site shows my bad results Sad because it is normal for the results, to be displayed to everyone. It is the best in this way. Anyway, not too many people look at my results and which would be the purpose of hiding them? I think is ok with visual results for all.
 arsenej19/11/2018 8:21:25 PM GMT
Posted by CALICUL:
I do not care if this site shows my bad results Sad because it is normal for the results, to be displayed to everyone. It is the best in this way. Anyway, not too many people look at my results and which would be the purpose of hiding them? I think is ok with visual results for all.


I often check stats of other players at final tables or higher buyin spin and goes. Doesnt tell me much but tells me if there a winner or loser in the game type thing
 Gerimantas9/11/2018 8:45:11 PM GMT
Yes interesting situation about hendon mob and chance to delete you accounts and data. I think it is not bad, if i like player want my data to be awailable to all i then agree to some questions or something liie this, but if i not want then site must not collect my data
 CALICUL9/12/2018 7:16:24 PM GMT
I do not understand why forcing account closures or changing names. Snce these accounts have no real names, should be left like this, for majority and only few players to chance the nick names. I did not make an account there because is not for me. I have account in another site to see some results.
 bowie19849/13/2018 10:15:52 PM GMT
Posted by arsenej1:
I often check stats of other players at final tables or higher buyin spin and goes. Doesnt tell me much but tells me if there a winner or loser in the game type thing

But even the loosers have sometimes exceptional days so overall is not necessery gonna help you on the spot all the info you could get out of these databases. The only thing matters is those hands they played at your table.
 dule-vu9/13/2018 10:38:59 PM GMT
when we have so many rules for privacy and every other things,especially now in european union,this is for sure one of problems with privacy!in next weeks we will have ban for posting song,links and every other things on internet,so why to have this kind of things for free!
 misteriopj9/19/2018 2:02:28 PM GMT
Well as they say that information is public domain to what people do not think is that it is all together in one place, either to avoid any damage to their heritage or like to walk in anonymity, as they say poker by Many people do not accept it as a sport, but a game of avoidance and chance

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