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Contributed or Dealt Rakeback issue  0   
This is an issue that I have been wondering about for a while. Which rakeback is better Contributed or Dealt? I have contacted several places to see what is better and keep the same response. Basically I am being told it doesn't matter which one because of the variance in hands played,etc., that it equals out to about the same. So if anyone has some input on the matter I would appreciate it. Thx

I'll even add a poll to see what people prefer for feedback

     
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sorry for my ignorance,
I would like to know the practical difference between the two kind of rakeback as I have never applied for a rakeback deal but I would like to do

thanks for your answer

     
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i am not an expert but i think it depends upon your playing style, your opponents and how often you play. and the offer( rakeback deal/ bonus) you are getting from the poker site.
If you like to play tight and there are plenty of loose opponents on your table then dealt rake is gonna be more beneficial and opposite.
always make a rough calculation how much are you gonna benefit and compare two offers before taking one.

     
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@magatt966

Dealt rake :

All the rake is counted by having the rake divide by the number of people on the table that was DEALT a hand regardless of blind or not.

So lets say that Player A contributed the most in the pot but the rake is all shared between all players on table.

This method of rakeback encourages players to play tighter (TAG/Nits), afterall why do you need to bet into the pot to generate rake when others can do it for you?


Contributed rake:

The rake is calculated via individual contribution, so if you were dealt a hand and you fold preflop without paying any blinds, then any rake generated during that hand doesnt count towards you.

If you bet a lot by playing LAG style then you would prefer this method of rakeback since whatever amount of rake you generate gets counted for yourself.

Dealt RB is ideal for TAG players and just mostly nits. Hence most people on cake network play a TAG style because the network offers dealth rakeback.

Contributed RB is ideal for LAG players and most networks use this method. Mainly because LAG players generate a lot more rake the TAGs

LAG = Loose Aggressive - plays a wide range of hands
TAG = Tight Aggressive - plays premium and strong hands most of the time

Edit: Back to issue.

Personally prefer contributed rakeback. I play on merge, cake, stars and ftp. In terms of the player base, i prefer merge and stars. Cake has a lot of TAG players and you can really see the difference when you play on multiple sites. It can easily be exploited but its easier to get money off loose fish than tight fish imo.

Edited by Doomsday_vic (08 October 2009 @ 11:49 GMT)


     
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Posted by Doomsday_vic:

Personally prefer contributed rakeback. I play on merge, cake, stars and ftp. In terms of the player base, i prefer merge and stars. Cake has a lot of TAG players and you can really see the difference when you play on multiple sites. It can easily be exploited but its easier to get money off loose fish than tight fish imo.


I play on FTP with dealt rakeback and I don't notice any lack of looseness. And I personaly believe you should NEVER adjust your style of play to the room's rakeback system. Play your best game and get paid from it, rakeback is just an extra.

     
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Dealt RB is ideal for TAG players and just mostly nits. Hence most people on cake network play a TAG style because the network offers dealth rakeback.

Contributed RB is ideal for LAG players and most networks use this method. Mainly because LAG players generate a lot more rake the TAGs
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Thx doomsday, this nailed it. I am at the cake network atm and it is dealt. When I was signing up I was going to choose Aced which I believe is contributed but wasn't to sure which one would be better. But I haven't had the chance yet to give contributed a try so I needed some experienced input. I found out today BBP is contributed so it looks like BBP is definitely going to be my next choice (if I can get the rakeback offer). One thing I did notice with dealt, when I switch to limit and more players are in the pot, my rakeback is drastically reduced. But I think if it was contributed I would have a ton more comming back to me since I contribute quite a bit once in the hand

     
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Posted by racpxt:
Posted by Doomsday_vic:

Personally prefer contributed rakeback. I play on merge, cake, stars and ftp. In terms of the player base, i prefer merge and stars. Cake has a lot of TAG players and you can really see the difference when you play on multiple sites. It can easily be exploited but its easier to get money off loose fish than tight fish imo.


I play on FTP with dealt rakeback and I don't notice any lack of looseness. And I personaly believe you should NEVER adjust your style of play to the room's rakeback system. Play your best game and get paid from it, rakeback is just an extra.


You should always adjust your style accordingly against varies opponents to further exploit their weakness though but yes not for rakeback system. If you keep to the same style, others will adjust and exploit your weaknesses instead.

The rakeback system is just to show a general idea on what the players are like depending on the system used
For instance, if you're a tight player that doesnt play out of position then people who notice will bet vs you when you have the blinds to steal your blinds.

Or you could be very loose and play regardless of position. Regs will notice this and will be more willing to play against you in position.

Just my 2 cents. Then again i could be totally wrong since im still in the process of improving my game.

@ih8usukouts: Aced and BBP are from the same network. I believe BBP's offers are better, I got the no deposit, first deposit and BBP rep John has said I can still get rakeback. Currently sorting RB out with him. Just go to their live support and ask for John and talk to him about it

Edited by Doomsday_vic (08 October 2009 @ 14:07 GMT)


     
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Dealt rakeback is pehaps the most common and maybe that is what is making me prefer this type of rakeback, but i also understand those who say its about the same, once the difference between values isnt much.

     
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Posted by Doomsday_vic:
@magatt966

Dealt rake :

All the rake is counted by having the rake divide by the number of people on the table that was DEALT a hand regardless of blind or not.

So lets say that Player A contributed the most in the pot but the rake is all shared between all players on table.

This method of rakeback encourages players to play tighter (TAG/Nits), afterall why do you need to bet into the pot to generate rake when others can do it for you?


Contributed rake:

The rake is calculated via individual contribution, so if you were dealt a hand and you fold preflop without paying any blinds, then any rake generated during that hand doesnt count towards you.

If you bet a lot by playing LAG style then you would prefer this method of rakeback since whatever amount of rake you generate gets counted for yourself.

Dealt RB is ideal for TAG players and just mostly nits. Hence most people on cake network play a TAG style because the network offers dealth rakeback.

Contributed RB is ideal for LAG players and most networks use this method. Mainly because LAG players generate a lot more rake the TAGs

LAG = Loose Aggressive - plays a wide range of hands
TAG = Tight Aggressive - plays premium and strong hands most of the time

Edit: Back to issue.

Personally prefer contributed rakeback. I play on merge, cake, stars and ftp. In terms of the player base, i prefer merge and stars. Cake has a lot of TAG players and you can really see the difference when you play on multiple sites. It can easily be exploited but its easier to get money off loose fish than tight fish imo.




big ty doomsday Thumbs Up
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now I am less ignorant than five minutes ago

ty again

     
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@ih8usukouts: Aced and BBP are from the same network. I believe BBP's offers are better, I got the no deposit, first deposit and BBP rep John has said I can still get rakeback. Currently sorting RB out with him. Just go to their live support and ask for John and talk to him about it
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Thnx, looks like alot of people are choosing dealt. I think I might be better off with contributed because usually when I enter a pot I do play them hard so I end up contributing more than others. You know with dealt, it doesn't matter how much you put in, it all gets split between everyone that was dealt in the hand. With contributed, it is done based on how much you put in. If I am wrong someone correct me plz. Sometimes at cake, I switch to limit and notice my rakeback go way down. So I assume this is due to the fact the number of people entering the hand. So the rake gets divided amoung the # of players vs how much I contributed.

And yes, once my bonuses are up at my other two sites I do plan on going to BBP. I like everything I am reading and it just so happens they are doing a contributed rakeback deal which is what I am looking for Thumbs Up

     
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I think I make much more profit on dealt rakeback than contributed because I don't play many hands and that I'm mainly an omaha hi lo cash game player so definitely omaha hi lo cash game players will choose dealt...

     
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Thanks so much Doomsday, I also didn't know the difference between dealt and contributed method. After reading what Doomsday read, I prefer the dealt rakeback metod, because I'm not really involved in so many hands when I play cash, so I think I would get less rakeback with the contributed method.

It becomes also much eaiser to me to clear bonus with dealt method than contibuted method, so there is no doubt about my vote Big Smile

     
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Posted by Calmplay:
I think I make much more profit on dealt rakeback than contributed because I don't play many hands and that I'm mainly an omaha hi lo cash game player so definitely omaha hi lo cash game players will choose dealt...


Dealt for me too, I'm playing more and more PLO at the moment which makes finding a mega loose table a must.

     
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Dealt rake of course.
But seems to me it's more applied the other one.

     
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Looks like i have been missing out Sad three years playing poker and have not being getting rake back.....Me thinks i better sign up with a site for rake back and start benefiting. Have recently joined another bankroll site (Before got sorted with Bankrollmob) they give me a weekly pay back on racke on the site they are affiliated with, which is cool. I get 16c back for every 50c of rake i create Smile Smile so even though i am only playing 1c 2c cash tables i can get back a bit of money each week, in fact three weeks ago got back $6 and considering my bankroll in the poker site is roughly $30 that is a lot back in comparison...So signed up with bankroll mob rackeback and next bit of money i get will be lodged in a poker room that gives rake back.....and if Big bet poker gives rake ill put some money with them as its a nice little site, also will get my friend who signed up to bankroll mob through me to register with bankroll mob rake back too as they dont play with a site offering rake back either and not only will they benefit but i will too as i should then get a % of there rake for signing them up Cool Cool Cool Cool So have to say joining up with bankroll mob has been good, learning more and getting to pass it on to friends Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
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