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Ok so after a few months of playing on pokerstars i have come to the conclusion there games are rigged and there staff have control of who wins and who doesnt. Last night i was playing in a 20k tourny on there and after a disagreememnt with another player a member of pokerstars staff turns up at my table this in itself is not a problem but when i begin to lose every hand i play i then become suspicious. I would post my hand history and you could see exactly what i mean but pokerstars refuses to send it to me... something to hide maybe? I swear within10 minutes of having a disagreement with this person i was bankrupt and WHEN jokerstars sends me the hand history i have been requesting then you can see how much of a blatant thieving robbing and down right kuniving joke of a site... the biggest poker site in the world? Im not surprised whn they stael peoples moey.
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awch thats f*ckd up indeed i think to that on some poker site's are cheaters maybe staff that know how to work with that script to see your card or something like that
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i have to say that anything with software is "riggable".. the programmer can program such that there is a "main controller/back door" for the operators to tweak.. think about it, even poker itself there won't be a chance to "open" all the cards right, and player can even be a house bot instead.. how will you know? they tweak the bot's card and your broke lol
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pokerstars isnt rigged only at online! this week there was the tv-total pokernight by pokerstars in german tv and the aces of the "hero" stefan raab got cracked by pocket 4´s of boris becker´s ( former tennis-pro and team pokerstars pro) wife , when she made the flush on the river( one of her 2 outs was mucked preflop by an other player) .. riggeeeeed the other hand on the river the 8 outer arrived... riggeeeedd
==irony-mode off==
.... but every show the online qualifier get the victory and 50k €... thats not rigged
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Posted by bakera: Ok so after a few months of playing on pokerstars i have come to the conclusion there games are rigged and there staff have control of who wins and who doesnt. Last night i was playing in a 20k tourny on there and after a disagreememnt with another player a member of pokerstars staff turns up at my table this in itself is not a problem but when i begin to lose every hand i play i then become suspicious. I would post my hand history and you could see exactly what i mean but pokerstars refuses to send it to me... something to hide maybe? I swear within10 minutes of having a disagreement with this person i was bankrupt and WHEN jokerstars sends me the hand history i have been requesting then you can see how much of a blatant thieving robbing and down right kuniving joke of a site... the biggest poker site in the world? Im not surprised whn they stael peoples moey.
Nice Joke Bakera
Well i hope its meant as a joke cos ur making a complete fool off urself.....
Weaker hands do win often, not as often as the stronger hand though. If people played like they do online in live games, it would happen too and you will call them cheaters and somebody will get shot. Also, some people just can't play and think aq should beat 67 everytime.
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Posted by doomdy:
Posted by bakera: Ok so after a few months of playing on pokerstars i have come to the conclusion there games are rigged and there staff have control of who wins and who doesnt. Last night i was playing in a 20k tourny on there and after a disagreememnt with another player a member of pokerstars staff turns up at my table this in itself is not a problem but when i begin to lose every hand i play i then become suspicious. I would post my hand history and you could see exactly what i mean but pokerstars refuses to send it to me... something to hide maybe? I swear within10 minutes of having a disagreement with this person i was bankrupt and WHEN jokerstars sends me the hand history i have been requesting then you can see how much of a blatant thieving robbing and down right kuniving joke of a site... the biggest poker site in the world? Im not surprised whn they stael peoples moey.
Nice Joke Bakera
Well i hope its meant as a joke cos ur making a complete fool off urself.....
I do lose aq vs 67 3 out of 10 times on PS, so I dunno, he could be right.
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i had arguments with other players at the table and the moderateor steps in takes my chat privaledges away. then i get moved to another table. 2/7 off but it is checked all around to me so i check. the flop comes 7/2/2. somebody had the real cold deck hand. 7/7. the first hand. imagine that. i been knowing that they could cheat very easily if they wanted too. but do they. maybe they do. remember they all said that nobody could cheat at poker on the intermet. and then there was pottripper at absolute then russ hamilton at ultimate bet. so it's still possible.
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I think that it is easy to get frustrated online as you see tough beats what seems to be more often. You see a ton of hands so your sample size is a lot larger and in a much shorter time. I have experienced the same types of beats in live poker as online, only more of them online due to two things, online players play a lot more trash hands and there are just so many more hands dealt.
However, after the Ultimate Bet fiasco, you never know....
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what about russ hamilton at ultimate bet. he had a chip installed so he could see everyones hole cards. 66 million he stole. forgot to mention he was the 1993 or so WSOP champ. and potripper at absolute. 1 1/2 million is all. keep an open mind if they could do it why not somebody else. they just caught.
------------ unless you have been living on mars russ hamilton. could see hole cards of everyone at the table. 66 million he stole. with no criminal prosecution. don;t believe me look his name up on the net. oh yeah potripper too. another thief he operated at absolute though. so don't say no one cheats. your a foll to believe that.
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Posted by stoner111: what about russ hamilton at ultimate bet. he had a chip installed so he could see everyones hole cards. 66 million he stole. forgot to mention he was the 1993 or so WSOP champ. and potripper at absolute. 1 1/2 million is all. keep an open mind if they could do it why not somebody else. they just caught.
------------ unless you have been living on mars russ hamilton. could see hole cards of everyone at the table. 66 million he stole. with no criminal prosecution. don;t believe me look his name up on the net. oh yeah potripper too. another thief he operated at absolute though. so don't say no one cheats. your a foll to believe that.
pitbull poker seems to have been involved in shady business practices too. (nothing proven though). of course there is always cheating when money is involved.
all this cases are exceptions and there was always some serious reason to arouse ones suspicion. i dont see anything convincing pointing towards cheating by any of the major sites...
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The great thing about the ultimate bet deal is they got caught and there were refunds issued. Also, the high profile scandal has led to making it a lot less likely this will happen at other sites. The publicity hit that UB took is a huge deterent.
Now there are plenty of individuals teaming on a table. This is the bigger threat to joe public .
also, there is zero financial benefit to scamming the micro limit players. they want the rake and that is all.
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Ok Bakera, i hope i didnt violate your privacy but after certain person, we all know who, I had to check for myself. I can`t see any tournaments played by "Bakera" whatsoever not to mention 20K.
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Posted by JimmiNS: I hate pokerstars! I dont know why but it seems like people who play "weaker hands" wins often! It dont happen on mansionpoker etc! Pokerstars sucks!
We all have our fair share of bad beats/variance/downswings buddy, doesn't make online poker rigged. I swear if i read this an hour ago i would have came in here badmouthing a certain pokersite b'cuz i was down to the last 16 in $15,000GP rebuy/addon with $6000/$12,000 blinds and i caught JJ & with just over10BB's i pushed all in and got 1 caller with TT who had about 60% of my stack, flop came QTQ, no jack on turn or river. Down to about $50,00 left with blinds coming around soon so knew i had to make a move... 2 hands later i get KQ... push all in get called by the big stack with KJ.... i catch a king on the flop , turn brings a jack , river blank & i bust out so close to getting to the big payouts & that alone took 5 hours with a field of 700, i was so frustrated ... but you just gotta remember that that's a part of the game of poker & if you can't handle it then you may aswell give up while your ahead.
, turn brings a jack 
, river blank & i bust out so close to getting to the big payouts & that alone took 5 hours with a field of 700, i was so frustrated 
... but you just gotta remember that that's a part of the game of 
