Joined: Feb '08
Age: 50 (M)
Ok some thoughts here ................ playing 5c 10c cash table had built $10 up to $13.02 and had a read on a few players........... when I got K,K in the big blind ... there was a raise of 40c from one player and a call from another..........I had the first player for a steady player but the caller was extremely loose...so I put in a reraise to $2.20 as I wanted only to be against a good hand and have a good idea where i was being first to act on the flop........... first player called .... leading me to believe he had at worst A,K but probably up to Q,Q or some other pocket pair but not A.A ..... as i believe he would have reraised all in otherwise (I would have called all in ).........then second player called....had no idea what to put him on from the way he was playing but had to put him on something decent to call as well. .............flop comes 5,2,3 Hearts, decided not to worry about flush plus had K of hearts.. and put in a bet of $4.80 which would put second player all in if he called,........... first player called and then second called for the rest of his chips ($4.67)..Turn comes 6 spades and I push all in for my last $6.12 and after a long think by the first player he folds. But i felt I had him with no reraise on flop. ....... river comes 7 diamonds ..........cards go over and i see second player holding 4 Hearts,7clubs....and he wins with a straight .......I got my $6.12 back but could not believe he called preflop my reraise of $2.20................ any thoughts on this hand.
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Well the caller is definitely a loose player and probably a donk but then you knew this beforehand. I agree you need to raise preflop. If he will call to see a flop with rubbish then you need to exploit this. I don't get though why you expected him to fold. You say the other player raised 40c so thats 50 to call with a pot of 80. I gather you raised to 2.20 total. So when it gets to him the pot is 5 dollars and he has 1.70 to call. He was definitely calling here but that's what you want. The fact he got lucky doesn't mean much as in the long term he will lose making that call and you will win.
Joined: Oct '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 41 (M)
happens all the time, some players dont play smart and like to gamble and thats exactly what this donk has done..but thats poker u just have to put it into your head to forget about it move on its history and own him again sometime soon and im sure u know if he keeps calling with junk he isnt gonna last very long then u can smile and say i knew i get him back no sweat
There's just so many donks & fish at both nl5, nl10 & you'll even run into a few terrible terrible players at nl25; so it can get really annoying when u have a premium holding only to have it outflopped by 58 or 74 or some other ridiculous holding. I think you just have to keep playing your strong hands strong & punish the fish for their mistakes, & make them pay big for their draws cause alot of these ppl at these limits are calling stations that will pay you for their gutshots, bar the occassional competent player, the majority suck.
Joined: Aug '09
Age: 33 (M)
Unbelievable. His call was too sick. Of course you played thahand well, just you were unlucky (really unlucky). Just make your notes on this player and keep in mind his nickname. You will find him at another table for sure and with patiance your money will be back to you.
Joined: Nov '09
Location: United States
Age: 34 (F)
I think you did just fine. That's how it is with poker...You never know how the cards will fall. I think I would have done the same in that situation. The chances of that guy winning were slim for the straight draw. However, perhaps you could have sensed such a situation arising by noticing the cards that came out on the flop.. and so on. It's tough to let a hand like that go..IT WAS A GOOD HAND!
Joined: Apr '09
Age: 36 (M)
I voted you played proper. But, post flop personally I would have played a bit more cautiously. just because you said you had a read that he was a donk. I mean, what he had was pretty unebeliavable, but A rag was prob in his range and with all the low cards thats a worry. Not to mention for board came 3 hearts on flop, sure you had K, but any two would beat that, or given another heart, then the A, which was quit possibly in the game given the ranges you guys should have had.
I would have called any shoves, so no doubt, donk would have shoved river anway leading to same result. But still, I'd prob try and avoid risking my whole stack with a pair of Ks on a board like that :/
Joined: Jan '09
Location: New Zealand
Age: 32 (M)
Looks like a typical cooler to me. Its quite a drawy board though so he might have 44 or set there but if hes that loose, just put a note on him. I guess hes one of your typical bad players calling a raise with such junk.
I think you played well, betting right amount to maximize pot. I would have played in a different way in a tournament, expecially in first hands. But in a cash game it's quite correct and it's not our fault to have found a fish oppo. I'm sure you will have back all your money from him ( with interests too )
Joined: Oct '09
Age: 39 (M)
I know what you did everything correctly then u play in live poker u need much more luck then real poker because a lot off rivers can kill u then u sit near table in internet poker not u work very hard but system who decide the winer
so u will back your money soon i hope 4 it dont worry 4 that just be cappy