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nice flop for me one might think...
Full Tilt Poker Game #16214442598: $5 + $0.50 Matrix 4x Sit & Go (119337588), Match 1 - 80/160 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 9:07:43 ET - 2009/11/22 Seat 3: illbatting85 (489) Seat 4: dezyr_two (2,298) Seat 6: gutoAA (6,523) Seat 9: umarplus (4,190) illbatting85 posts the small blind of 80 dezyr_two posts the big blind of 160 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to umarplus [8s Js Kd Kh] gutoAA folds umarplus has 15 seconds left to act umarplus raises to 489 illbatting85 calls 409, and is all in dezyr_two calls 329 *** FLOP *** [Ks 2s 9s] dezyr_two checks umarplus bets 1,467 dezyr_two raises to 1,809, and is all in umarplus calls 342 dezyr_two shows [Ts Jd Qs Tc] umarplus shows [8s Js Kd Kh] illbatting85 shows [2d 9h Jh Ad] *** TURN *** [Ks 2s 9s] *** RIVER *** [Ks 2s 9s 4h] dezyr_two shows a flush, King high, for high umarplus shows a flush, King high, for high dezyr_two wins the side pot (3,618) with a flush, King high illbatting85 shows two pair, Nines and Twos, for high dezyr_two wins the main pot (1,467) with a flush, King high No low hand qualified *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 5,085 Main pot 1,467. Side pot 3,618. | Rake 0 Board: [Ks 2s 9s 4h Qd] Seat 3: illbatting85 (small blind) showed [2d 9h Jh Ad] and lost with HI: two pair, Nines and Twos Seat 4: dezyr_two (big blind) showed [Ts Jd Qs Tc] and won (5,085) with HI: a flush, King high Seat 6: gutoAA didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: umarplus (button) showed [8s Js Kd Kh] and lost with HI: a flush, King high
i find it kind of funny, that the only guy with an actual high/low hand busted here. gg
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K K J 8 is not a playable hand in Omaha hilo really, especially when neither of the kings are suited. You're only playing high cards here and they're not eeven suited or connected (a suited J isn't worth s**t unless you're short handed and even then its poor enough). Should have mucked this hand preflop
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Posted by NANACONDA: K K J 8 is not a playable hand in Omaha hilo really, especially when neither of the kings are suited. You're only playing high cards here and they're not eeven suited or connected (a suited J isn't worth s**t unless you're short handed and even then its poor enough). Should have mucked this hand preflop
indeed. i tried to get it HU against the shorty for the knockout points. i needed them really hard at that point and had no problem to play for 500 chips with just a medium-strength high hand, for that reason. (i ended up 1 point short for a piece of the extraprizepool btw )
oh. and we were shorthanded, buddy.
unfortunately the big blind did not get the memo and i obviously dont fold on that flop. i know third flush is not a monster in omaha, but i liked my topset counterdraw, in case my opponent really has a better flush.
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Sorry, I didn't realise you were short handed,trying to get it heads up in position is usually a good call alright, but you need lo cards. Obviously its just major bad luck after the flop (Don't play matrixes so i dont get the point things)
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That's why I love omaha. I made my best suck outs playing Omaha. Anyway, although I'm not an expert Omaha player I thinkl your hand wasn't good et all to Omaha Hi/Lo.
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ive got to totally agree on 8JKK not beeing a playable omaha8 hand usually. the HH above is a good example why. even if you manage to play for the full pot: the jack-high flush will either win a small pot or loose a huge one. dont try this at home kids
this said: if i had knocked out the shorty there, i would have had at least 1,80 $ extra in prizemoney (relatively much compared to the 5,50 $ buyin); well worth the risk of 500 chips imo. it was a pretty specific situation.
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Posted by DaneMitic: dunno about h/l but in omaha Hi its not really a good situation for you, after he pushed allin, its a fault wtih just 7 outs, imo...
i had 342 to call with 4000ish in the pot already (and direct prizemoney to be made from the matrix-prizepool). i dont see me folding there. also this guys have been so incredibly bad; there was a decent chance that he had a worse flush or even just bottom set.
in a PLO or NLO cashgame with deeper stacks i totally agree with you. 3rd flush with topset goes into the muck against a decent opponent there. omaha can be so sick...
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