Brian Townsend has been in the center of the storm since last week when he got his red pro status removed (for a month) by Full Tilt after that they found out he had been using a non-allowed program to save hand history against Isildur1, and also discussed and shared this information with Brian Hastings and Cole South.
After this, Brian Townsend wrote in his blog that he was the sole one to break[...] Read more » Tony G comments on the Brian Townsend scandal
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Nicely said from Tony G. Its indeed not really fair for Isildur : Townsend avertissement, but it wont give back the money to Isildur... they should make something for him too...
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FTP does more. If you are an unknown player your account will be closed, you will be banned for life and all your money on your bankroll will be frozen. That happen to a guy I read about a couple of months ago. He used a HU table to transfer some cash to another guy since he hadn't all requirements to do it by the player transfer function, voluntarily lost a small pot, and some days after got that penalty.
Lose our money by free will: Lifetime ban, bye bye money and see you next life FTP. Cheat another player to take his money: 1 month without 100% rakeback.
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So, if Townsend used an "allowed" program to record hand history - the "scandal" wouldn't have happened?? I'm not 100% up to date with this story, but they didn't really collude against Isildur1, did they? If they just analysed hand history and discussed the strategy prior to the game - can that be called "collusion"?
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He used 3rd party hand histories. Which means HH sharing, a violation of FTP terms and conditions, and leads to permanent ban and the use of your funds to payback your victims, unless you are a red pro.
Posted by m0n0: So, if Townsend used an "allowed" program to record hand history - the "scandal" wouldn't have happened?? I'm not 100% up to date with this story, but they didn't really collude against Isildur1, did they? If they just analysed hand history and discussed the strategy prior to the game - can that be called "collusion"?
It's just not done, I think this whole thing is really weak from these guys and I feel sorry for Isildur, I would feel sorry for anyone. I think FT should do something more, oh well, they won't.
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How is it determined how much the victim gets paid? I mean, it can be that having the HH database may give a player a certain edge over another, but what about those hands that would have been won anyways, database or not?
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Funny that this fat Aussi Tony G is talking about fair play. I mean, i laughed when i saw him flaming but flamed over the top insulting the russian player and behaving like a pr1ck all the time.
Im sure in another mood he would say "everything in poker is legal"
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Tony G. wanted to show everyone that its not a John Doe who is passing by Isildur1, they know his identity, they know the ghuy, they just dont want do reveal him because things are turning funny and Full Tilt is winning with all this stories. Now, once a guy won Isildur1, a normal regular player with no higly pro skill, things were becoming bad and so they decided to put him away with this story. But Tony G. has nothing to do with that. He did right in saying this things, he is smart!
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very well said from tony G, wise speakings. i also think there is a bad smell in the air since the "joke" punishment FTP gave to Townsend and i really hope isildur1 gets back into his winnings very quick.
It is an insult that Townsend got a slap on the wrist so far (even though this is his 2nd infraction). FTP really needs to plug this PR mess quickly or risk integerity as a legimate poker site. In most other competitive leagues, cheating to win will usually result in severe punishment. 1 month loss of a status doesn't cut it. How about a 1year total ban with frozen accounts (this is still mild compared to what happens to non pro cheaters). Still, the opening for a lawsuit is there, and it will be big news as to who the biggest loser(s) will be when it does happen.
Tony G's comments on the matter are appropiate here, although I'm sure that he's not innocent of shady conduct in the past.
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Geeze, get rid of that bloody Townsend already. I mean, one warning might be acceptable as a pro. But he got two, plays the game like a little child cheating imo.
I don't like too muche Tony G style but this time I completely agree with him; how can we trust in Full Tilt if their ( or some fo their ) pros are involved in '' not totally clear '' situations ??
