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In a flip, when you win more hands?  +1   
When you are all in and there is the typical flip situation Ace-High vs 9 or lower pair, which one make you win more hands?

In my case, neither one nor the other Blink

     
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It is something like 55/45 to 52/48 in favour of the pocket pair, depending on the pair. So it is not really a flip.

     
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Posted by DaMessiah666:
When you are all in and there is the typical flip situation Ace-High vs 9 or lower pair, which one make you win more hands?

In my case, neither one nor the other Blink


Neither one nor the other

     
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Well, its hard to say, but i think its neither one or the other.
But normally the pair should take a bit more time as statistics proves (~55%)
You should give more precision : if its a coinflip, you should say Ax (x>9) vs YY (Y<9 or Y=9)
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Posted by shokaku:
It is something like 55/45 to 52/48 in favour of the pocket pair, depending on the pair. So it is not really a flip.


no it has nothing to do with the pair, it's 55/45 against against overcards that are offsuited, while its 52/48 against suited overcards.
it is more likely to make a straight or a flush if the pocket pair does not include a card you could need, so J Spade 10 Spade is slight favourite against 4 Club 4 Heart , but not against 9 Club 9 Heart.

     
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Posted by Raggamann:

no it has nothing to do with the pair, it's 55/45 against against overcards that are offsuited, while its 52/48 against suited overcards.

Suits do matter, but with 99 you win on a 5544J board against AK, with 22 you lose.

     
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It is a good question actually, because I never took the time to check this...I went to my poker tracker stats and ran a pretty complicated query on my DB (basically, the main difficulty was to determine what was a race and what was not, so maybe my results are skewed on this notion)
I found out that most races I win are with medium pocket pairs against only one overcard.

     
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I always prefer a made hand to an unmade hand, even if the advantage is slight.

     
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I would have to agree with neither one or the other, you go all-in and it is in the lap of the gods.

     
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I just lost a very important flio holding AKo agains pocket's nine Sad Sad Sad Sad Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
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Thats why its called a flip...all flips are around 50/50 outherwise its not a flip.

     
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A pair is always a pair and if I decide to play a coin flip I prefer to take a little advantage: a small pair is an advantage for me Blink

     
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In the last 13 "coin flips" i lost 10 of them....
I counted because i was thinking i have no luck at all for some time...
6 times lost with pocket pairs (7+) / 3 with AK once with AQ (needed to push)...
I won twice with pocket pairs and once with AK against 5/5.

Hate coin flips :<... or rather they hate me.

     
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Posted by DaMessiah666:
which one make you win more hands?


pocket pairs are marginally better than A-high, but flip is a flip Smile

     
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i think neither one nor the other!

when i have the pocket pair, he hits his card on the river
if i have ace high, then i dont hit my card
but when i hit my card, he hits the set Smile

yes, i am very unlucky Blink

     
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My game is based 99% on flips............................

     
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Posted by doomdy:
My game is based 99% on flips............................

You play on Full Tilt too then...

     
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Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
My game is based 99% on flips............................

You play on Full Tilt too then...


Nah just play too many DoNs ....... Tongue

     
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I feel more conmfortable to join a flip with a small pair rather than a Ace-high but there are days I'm always on the wrong side of the flip and day I'm always on the right side
no matter if I had a pair or A-high......it drives me crazy

     
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for me both the hands have been winning almost equally with a marginal high rate with pocket pair, but i don't go allin with overcards a lot, i think that might also be affecting the results.

     
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