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Joined: Apr '08
Location: Argentina
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 748
Is it aggressive as in everyone is raising limped pots to take them down (but there is usually no contest), or aggressive in the sense that hands get raised and reraised everytime? My definition of aggressive fits more on the second, and under that assumption limping makes no sense, I' m raising and going allin preflop if reraised
You actually forgot the other option, which is to fold. AK out of position is an awful position to be in, and you really dont want to be committing large stacks of your chips on Ace high pre flop.
Normally I would raise 2400 and drive some out the hang pre flop and see what I can hit. However 2400 is 25% of your stack and you are at the point of being pot committed by that point. If you raise pre flop you should be c-betting after the flop, and theres little or no way you can get away from the hand once the flop comes over.
Going all in is possible, the only problem I have with that is, you still have a relatively nice stack, and you have lots of hands in you. If someone calls and you are unlucky you've just busted yourself when really you dont need to. Its not like you are in the ALL IN OR FOLD area at this point.
Limping is simply out the question. Someone is going to raise you, and in that case, you either drive the momentum yourself or you get out the way.
Personally, I am torn between raising 2400 and the unthinkable, which is folding. By folding you let them KO each other, and then waiting for a better position where you can steal some blinds, and maybe pick up a nice hand and double up...
Of the options given, I'd tend to go with riase 2400 and hope. But if it were me, I'd actually most probably lay AK down and wait for a better spot where I can give it some real welly.
Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 6197
With this stack and these blinds i push with AK from any position, i play to win so fold is no option for me. Imo stack is too small to make a decent raise, am commited anyway. So for me it wud be ''shove it in'' any position. If i bust then i bust, but i play to win.
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 6714
More info on a hand like this. Stack sizes need to be known befor I could even begin to think of what to do. And how far from the bubble and value of the tourn. Do you want 1st or ITM. And your image. Av stacks here would be 40-50 BB so 24-30k(assuming its mid game) and in generall SS start playing tight and the BS play fairly loose. You are mid stack and IMO need to play TAG reguardless off the action at the table. You should not be calling raises anymore you will usually face a C- bet on the flop and will be pot commited anyway. So no limp. Yor in a good situation to do an early blind steal. so ignoring lots of outher factors id say raise to 2400. (id actually raise to 1500 or 1800) as the table is LAG id expect action and want to give myself room to fold. Im not putting down AK pre. Now thats just pre-flop and first action, now what do you do when someone re-raises, pushes all in and what about when the flop comes etc etc...I love poker.
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 4827
I would limp. When majority players of the table are playing agressive, you should play loose, so you keep different from the rest and avoyding bluffs that can compromise you tourney. This is my way of viewing this hand, not knowing cards. (i only now saw you put AK down the forum). And, even knowing your hand, which is good but not "a bomb", i would play in the same!
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 192
Only because you are under the gun you shove this. Basically the rule of thumb in tournaments is shove when you only have ten big blinds. You will be sb then bb next and close to that stage after a raise you can't afford to miss the flop. But for a clear choice you really need stack sizes listed of each other player to act. Smaller stacks will shove over you with small pairs, KJs.... etc but from the info shown it's a shove.
Joined: Oct '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 1086
Limp/shove is good if the the table is extremely aggressive but, it's not my favorite play.
I would need more info on the tourney, to make a proper decision. It's obvious you're deep, but how many people are left, whats the average stack size, etc.
I'm open shoving, to hopefully get heads up with someones Ax, I want a call but I don't mind picking up the blinds. Agressive table or not, an UTG shove is considered a strong move, so get it in there.
Bubble of the main event, fold and return to hibernation.
Joined: Nov '09
Location: Poland
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 1189
To be honest i don't really like AK ,and from early position it's obvious u will flip coin with someone (if the table is agressive). So you need to think do you want to flip with AK or not. I think i wouldn't because AK hate me ^^. Anyway i would Raise 3BB and w8 to see who check/raise me. Depends on who raised me i would call or go all-in.