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I find that jj seems to be one of the hands that i am constantly at war with. if i raise with it and get called, i generally am being called by 2 over cards or a bigger pocket pair.
the troubleIi have is, if i raise and the highest flop card is a 10 i still dont know where I am at because so often the other player has a bigger pair.. any ideas?
i just see JJ as a real trouble hand and am not really sure how to play it
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JJ is like 10´s or 9´s to me you can win big if you hit your set but its very vulnearable like any other small pocketpair with no help ( but as all PP it can still beat AK - a very overplayed hand ) keep the pot small if you dont know your position but if others has bigger pocketpairs and only call your preflop bet its "good play" something for conectors to crush them sometimes
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I play this hand aggressivly. I consider i can't limp with this hand (its still the 4th best hand of poker). So here you make a good raise (4-5 times BB, even bigger if some limpers came). - You get called by only one guy, i think you have still your chance : the flop come, and you have overpair : there you test your hand by betting a good amount (2/3 of the pot or even the pot if u are in last position). If u get reraise, its time to think about a fold. If the flop come with an overpair, you should test your hand, but with a small bet (1/3 of the pot). If he dont raise, well you know your game is good enough and you know you have the control of the pot, otherwise, you should think about a fold.
- You get called by two or more people : there it becomes to be hard, depending of your position. If the flop is low, you might still have the best hand (in low limits, people are mostly donk calling easily a big raise preflop with AT, QJ, KJ). If there is a king a queen or an ace, you check, fold or make a small bet to test your game, but you try to keep the pot small.
Its one way to play the jacks, there is many and for sure, as always in poker, a hand is never similar to another, just adapt to the situation. So, next time you get the jacks, just tell yourself you have a good hand, and play it as a good hand !
There are 3 ways to play JJ and they are all wrong. I usually raise preflop with them, but unless I hit a set or if the flop does not contain any overcards, I will try to keep the pot small. If the flop has 1 or more overcards and I get raised by more than 1/2 the pot, than I will probably fold unless I have a reason not to (I.E. if villian is a known bluffer and will raise/push with rags).
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i agree with you JJ is the hardiest hand to play in texas holdem no limit. i play JJ like choont if it was like 1010 or 99 but not push or fold with a set or not just try to keep the pot small if you dont hit your set.
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Posted by klopmand: ppJ no harder to play than ppT.
Maybe. But both ARE trouble hands.
Early in a tourney one can keep the pot small with that type of hand and reevaluate after the flop. Later in a tourney that type of play would put at risk a high percentage of the stack. It is push or fold time.
hmmm you say jj is a real trouble hand for you, so what about ace jack one of the most over rated hands in poker bet you have trouble with this hand too if having trouble with jj
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i usually put all in if anybody cals its meen he haveA and J Q or K sometimes 10 but never low hand its only need hope for luck like in over situation then u have AK and put all in some calling u with 66 and not floped turned or rivered any A or K and u go out so its poker its luck make u hapier good luck all
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99 TT and JJ the next best 3 starting hands after AA KK QQ... Play them strong preflop(3-4xBB), opening with a raise or re-raise (pot). Overcards on the flop spell troubel for these hands tho. But now you know what sort of cards they are playing, might have to fold, oh well, but not playing JJ pre IMO a sin.(unless too much giong on)
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J J is my QQ everyone has a hand that they love to hate. I herd once a pro telling someone he plays JJ like AA. He will try and convince the others he has AA untill someone convinces him they have AA then he'll dump it.
Posted by Plexo: It depend what stages fo the sit you are and what buy-in are u playing. At low buy-in and early stages I prefer just limp JJ and play set or fold.
In the push or fold phase I thinks it's pretty easy to play JJ. Pushhhhhhh!
For me, JJ is a dangerous hand. I've always play it with caution. In early position, push 5 or more xBB. I only want to play if opponent has two high cards or a pair. If somebody invites you to go all-in, I usually call. In flop, if there is no overcards, all-in clear. If overcard (A,K,Q) I usually test opponent raising and ... if you have any doubt that your opponent has made a higher pair ... it's a pity but you should fold.
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Posted by BhStaljin: I find that jj seems to be one of the hands that i am constantly at war with. if i raise with it and get called, i generally am being called by 2 over cards or a bigger pocket pair.
the troubleIi have is, if i raise and the highest flop card is a 10 i still dont know where I am at because so often the other player has a bigger pair.. any ideas?
i just see JJ as a real trouble hand and am not really sure how to play it
3 ways to play poket jacks and there all wrong so do whatever the fck you want
something for conectors to crush them sometimes
