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ummmmm im just wondering witch way is the better way to play SS, push all in or raise 4bb. I know ev1 hates that game but i thynk i need to start playing that course i lost almost all my roll. I feel like when i push i dont get enuff action and when i raise 4bb and miss im not sure what to do. If i countinuation bet and get caled already half my stack is in....................
the reason why you dont get any action when you push is because your short stacked and the other players know you have a good hand , but mind you theres always one donk with a big stack to call you just hang in there, or why not try double your money games just to build up your bankroll hope this helps
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Its not good to push... you dont let you any exit if the guy have a bigger hand than you. Raise 4 BB (or more, depending the number of limpers). Raise 4 BB and if someone reraise, there you begin to think to make all in or to fold... thats all good to multitable here !
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quote: "Raise 4 BB and if someone reraise, there you begin to think to make all in or to fold"
im no sss expert. but if i raise 4BB as sss then i definatly have a strong hand so fold is no option. either you fold your hand at beginning or you shove after a reraise.
as sss i would open up 10 tables and push all day long
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Posted by T3ddyKGB: im no sss expert. but if i raise 4BB as sss then i definatly have a strong hand so fold is no option. either you fold your hand at beginning or you shove after a reraise.
Not quite so. Suppose you're on the BTN, UTG calls, everyone else folds and you have, say, AQ. According to the SS strat, you should raise this, so you make it 4 more BB to go. Now UTG shoves in. I'm not sure now your hand is so good as to call. So many times I've seen people try to trap here with AA or KK
Posted by gunni89: ummmmm im just wondering witch way is the better way to play SS, push all in or raise 4bb. I know ev1 hates that game but i thynk i need to start playing that course i lost almost all my roll. I feel like when i push i dont get enuff action and when i raise 4bb and miss im not sure what to do. If i countinuation bet and get caled already half my stack is in....................
I don't see the point of just shoving all in pf because you won't get any calls, especially when playing sss. Answer this question, let's say you have a "full stack", you raise 4BB and get called, then c-bet the flop and get called, then what would you do I hope you have an answer because that's when poker just begins. Not just after the 1st two streets.
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Posted by ih8usukouts: Answer this question, let's say you have a "full stack", you raise 4BB and get called, then c-bet the flop and get called, then what would you do I hope you have an answer because that's when poker just begins. Not just after the 1st two streets.
SSS is for players, who don't have an answer to that question.
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Posted by gunni89: ummmmm im just wondering witch way is the better way to play SS, push all in or raise 4bb. I know ev1 hates that game but i thynk i need to start playing that course i lost almost all my roll. I feel like when i push i dont get enuff action and when i raise 4bb and miss im not sure what to do. If i countinuation bet and get caled already half my stack is in....................
This is typical SSS syndrome you cant get action, thats because everyone at the table knows you are playing SSS you need to mix things up a little to get the action. Dont aditise you are playing SSS by 4betting play the cards you would duing SSS but just min raise or call to see the flop as long as there are two of you in the pot you will have invested less into it so if you hit you can bet and if you dont then fold. You only need to 4bet to keep others out of the pot so if you think its safe to just call or small raise (save chips) this will help you play some cheap draws if the time comes and they wont know you are only playing the premium hands
Posted by ih8usukouts: Answer this question, let's say you have a "full stack", you raise 4BB and get called, then c-bet the flop and get called, then what would you do I hope you have an answer because that's when poker just begins. Not just after the 1st two streets.
SSS is for players, who don't have an answer to that question.
lol, I should of asked him for what the definition is for "Ratholing" first to see how much sss experience he had. Then asked this one.
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if you're playing strict SSS then there is some good guides out there telling you exactly how to play in any given situation. And since you've already decided to play the odds rather than the more complex game, you're better off following one of these guides to the T, because if you play SSS wrong you wont make any money, it's a mathematical system and starting hands, position, opposition stack sizes and amount of players at the table are all very important to ensure you're playing with the odds on your side. Just multi-table 5+ tables and you should do alright..
Personally, I hate SS and would rather build up with low buyin SnG and then buy into ring games with full stack once I've got enough of a roll for it. I try and avoid anything under nl25 also, because it just ruins the game more so than playing SSS.
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SSS: it was very profitable some time ago, but now... Let's face it, it is going dead and destroying NL FullRing. To many people shortstacking, tables with 3+ rock/aggressive parasites trying to double up and go away, it is not profitable to play on those tables, not for SSS players or full stack players.
Full Tilt will raise it's minimum buyin to 40bb to get rid of shortstackers and I believe many sites will follow them. I can't say I hate that strategy, sometimes I use it with the small BR I've got here on BigBetPoker, but I agree if rooms try to make impossible to use it, major rooms games are getting to tought to beat and very unfriendly to fish. Bad both for regulars and donks.
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It depends where are you playing. I don't like SSS it's boring and i can't stick with that... And when you are mixing strategy u lost much I always use SSS on Everest ... If you go multitabling 12+ tables u will find a lot of donks... but i never can't get out of tables after double up when i see how some players play.
And i have question to SSS if you see really big donks like 3 out of 10 players who go nearly everytime and check everything would you leave table after double up? If yes i would say lol.
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i don't like shortstack strategy, its good when you don't know how to play or you have a small bankroll, but afterwards it gets boring. there are so many short stacks these days, its not much profitable too
Posted by gunni89: ummmmm im just wondering witch way is the better way to play SS, push all in or raise 4bb. I know ev1 hates that game but i thynk i need to start playing that course i lost almost all my roll. I feel like when i push i dont get enuff action and when i raise 4bb and miss im not sure what to do. If i countinuation bet and get caled already half my stack is in....................
Posted by gunni89: ummmmm im just wondering witch way is the better way to play SS, push all in or raise 4bb. I know ev1 hates that game but i thynk i need to start playing that course i lost almost all my roll. I feel like when i push i dont get enuff action and when i raise 4bb and miss im not sure what to do. If i countinuation bet and get caled already half my stack is in....................
I hope you have an answer because that's when 
