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The whole hand isn't played great tbh with you. The first mistake is not reraising the original opener, i would want to make sure that im either picking up the pot right there or getting AQs heads up, IMOits a mistake to play this hand multiway and the small price of 80 to play isn't scaring anyone away as it is so you gotta put up the price to keep junk hands out & to be heads up.
of course you CALL you can also hit the straight flush you had plenty of outs, but this is what poker is really about, taking a risk, gambling, you are nearly geting 4 to1 you money,
when mp1 bet 200 you should of pushed all in then you wouldnt be posting this question because the button guy might not of gone all in he might of been trying to steal the pot, he would be asking the same question to him self put pressure back on them i think you played this hand wrong from the start anyway,
but hey no perfect
but what did you do in the end i hope ya called, but really you shouldnt be putting your self like this in hands always think 2 steps ahead , or in your case 5
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Posted by ChoonT
do you put in your last 1210 chips for this flushdraw with 2 overcards
you get back 4660 for risk 1210 and you have ~46% winning chance( controlled with odds calculator)
is the call a bad move however?
of course a bad call, but btw. you can't really say that your overcards are good. villain could play have an ace (AT for example) too, or a overpair or he already has a set or straight. villain must be a complete donkey if he moves all-in with only a toppair and a weak kicker in the first blindlevel, so i would say he got a stronger hand. against a set you have a winning chance of only 26%. but even with 54% its a bad call, the best you can do in a don is double-up your buy-in, so you should look for better chances than 50% and even if you win this pot you cannot be sure to cash.
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if it was any other game i would have called it but for don its a sure fold for me. why risk your whole stack for a draw so early in the game, when you most likely won't benefit anything from the extra chips
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It´s not so easy i think sometimes u must play what u feeling is saying.Sometimes u fold aces or kings and sometimes u make a "bad call" Poker is not only mathematic and odds and so on.And how high is the buyin and i make sometimes the dicision how much had i win or lost this day.Normaly is that a fold and 1 member had said is a call in cashgame.Thats nice i mean u had only a Flush draw and over cards.I think is better to call that in a SNG as u call much money in a cash game with this hand.
Posted by NANACONDA: Yes it is a bad call. Youve a 54 % chance of being knocked from a double or nothing. Of course you fold, If it wasnt a Don the its a call alrite but for a Don its a defo fold
agree sometimes in a DoN you have to fold poket rocket preflop if the situation is bad
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Its not a good call really as you have two players all in already... if you had been checked to then it might be worth a stab at it but to put your tourny on the line for a flush draw and two over cards is a no brainer. Your looking for the flush anyway as the over cards are to no benifit even if you hit one or both! pushing here will see you go broke quick.......
Posted by DaneMitic: 10/20 blinds... lol.. too bad i dont play dons anymore, i would love to have u on my table... fishy fishy
in this spot yes but i usually dont have to take such decisions in a don as i usually play like shokaku tells.. maybe the beat before on other table pushed me on tilt ( KK lost vs 99 on river)
Life is too long to play bad cards. I forgot who said that, but its kinda true.