The only good part about the sss principle I feel that is good is it teaches beginning players the importance of starting hands relative to position. But starting hands/position is the easiest part of poker. The "pure enjoyment of playing poker and using actual poker skills" starts after the flop, to me that's when the fun just begins. Otherwise I feel if you play "strict sss" according to how it's suppose to be played it limits people to minimal poker skills and doesn't allow them to develope into a much better poker player.
Joined: Dec '08
Age: 63 (M)
I voted 20 BB's, that's what SSS is about, isn't it. Personally, I take 40 BB's to a NL10 game if I don't know a single player at that table. If I have notes on about half the table, I sit down with a full stack.
Joined: Apr '08
Age: 43 (M)
I find SSS to be a boring strategy, you need a really good skill at PATIENCE rather than poker. But if you want to take advantage of no deposit bonuses bankrolls like 10$ or 50$ you usually have no choice than use SSS for a while...
Joined: Jan '08
Age: 39 (M)
Posted by fcumred: short stack strategy isnt poker. Its glorified bingo..
only people who never played the short stack strategy successful can say that. i don't say its much fun, but it's definitely no bingo. SSS can be the best way to build your bankroll as you do not need much money to start and still clear bonusses. when i played it it was easy money, even when i played more than 12 tables. many peolpe would learn much about preflop-play if they would try sss for a while. on NL10 most people think a shortstack cannot play poker, even if they are really bad they still think they were better and these guys are responisble for your profits. by the way, if you tried this strategy yourself you will have less problems with those players.
oh and always buy-in for 20bb otherwise you won't be able to play it correct
Joined: Feb '09
Age: 32 (M)
Well its 20 BB (or its not really shortstack strategy -_- ) Many says that shortstack strategy is no skill strategy, but playing at highest limits, i think there is skills because you'll have more tough decisions (you'll have to know your opponents, because in high limit, they play more agressivly preflop, so you'll get more often reraised and there you got to make decisions depending on your analyse of the opponent). Another art in SSStrategy is to steal the blinds.So here is a bit of skill (but not as much as a big stack strategy or playing a sng, thats true ! ). Whats great with SSS is that you can multitable massivly !
Joined: Apr '09
Age: 43 (M)
Shortstack you enter with $2 in 0.05$/0.10$ tables, which means 20 BBs, thats what comes on books. You will have to be loose agressive at the begining to win your space at the table, and then is just playing normal, or going out with the short winnings. You should not try to win big (like more than 3 times your stack) when entering shortstack to a ring table. Things can turn bad and then you can start a tilt phase because you will try it again shortly after and... same can happen twice.
Someone also learned to me that I should use 20 BB's if I wan to play SSS. But I heard that I have to win to 30 BB's to sit out, or maybe lose to 10 BB's (sit out or reload at this option). So what's the truth ? have to win to 30 or 40 BB's. I'm confused
Posted by FenoMeno: Someone also learned to me that I should use 20 BB's if I wan to play SSS. But I heard that I have to win to 30 BB's to sit out, or maybe lose to 10 BB's (sit out or reload at this option). So what's the truth ? have to win to 30 or 40 BB's. I'm confused
You are suppose to leave when you have 1.5 times the amount you entered with. So 20BB X 1.5 = 30BB. Now you have to take into consideration the amount of money you lost folding blilnds & the missed flops after you raise and get callers and have to fold, did you really make any money? Also, reload when you drop down to 15BB back to 20BB. Let me ask you how much poker experience you have? The reason I say this is because Mast3rKush had a good point. Why play 10NL when you can buy in 100BB @ 5NL? Don't take this as a personal dig, but the way I see it you should drop down and stay out of NL10 til you get more knowledge of what you are doing at playing sss. These are extremely basic sss questions that you should already know before even sitting at the table and playing sss.