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  19-Jan-10, 11:07   #1
AAKK Omaha 0 
bless9 

Joined: Feb '09
Location: Finland
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 328
I had AAKK, and even suited crowns.

8 players in table 0.50sb/ 1bb

I raise 1$,
player2 raises 3$
player3 raises 5$
player4 raises 11$

My turn I raise all-in 38.50$

player 2 calls
player 3 calls
player 4 calls

pot was something 140$ or more.


player 2 shows AA36
player 3 shows 81010J
player 4 shows 3355

im leading until river card comes and player 3 makes straight Confused

Did I play wrong, I had AAKK suites pre-flop, so no reason to fold.

     
  19-Jan-10, 11:10   #2
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Matildal 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Sweden
Age: 28 (F)
Posts: 3
You did right, but in Omaha no hand is as big in the lead as AA in texas

     
  19-Jan-10, 11:22   #3
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Joe_Average 

Joined: Dec '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 60 (M)
Posts: 735
Posted by Matildal:
You did right, but in Omaha no hand is as big in the lead as AA in texas

I agree, play this hand the same way a hundred times and you win much more then you lose.
But I have to say, in Omaha high I like hands like 10JQK-double suit better.

     
  19-Jan-10, 11:30   #4
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B1gfoot 

Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 6714
To start either sit FS or SS.
And for me I never go all in pre-flop playing omaha.
The problem also here IMO is your 1$ bett, why? make a real bet if your going to do it, also you are out of position, even tho you have the best starting hand you should have just called then re-raised any raises if they happen.
Omaha for me is set or better, vary rarely raise pre unless in positoion with strong hand or unraised on the button.

     
  19-Jan-10, 11:32   #5
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bless9 

Joined: Feb '09
Location: Finland
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 328
Well I won earlier this all money I had in Omaha with 4569, every player was raising also then pre-flop, and I thought I had good chance to make straight, and I won then.

     
  19-Jan-10, 11:41   #6
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pokkerimees 
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Estonia
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 398
AAKK is good hand, but overrated in Omaha, so actually you dont want to so many players to see flop with you. Raise 1$ was bad, but i dont understand those other players too- raise to 3, raise to 5, raise to 11. When you raised allinn, they felt commited. Raise more first and with so many reraisers just call to see flop

     
  19-Jan-10, 12:21   #7
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Tchungpo 

Joined: Feb '09
Location: Belgium
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 686
Omaha is a luckbox game ^^
I mean, there is really more luck than in holdem... with a Four players hand, you have not many chances to win... (i think)

     
  19-Jan-10, 13:48   #8
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racpxt 
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 401
Posted by Tchungpo:
Omaha is a luckbox game ^^
I mean, there is really more luck than in holdem... with a Four players hand, you have not many chances to win... (i think)


100% wrong. Variance is not luck, and that's what Omaha has more than Hold'em, big pure hard variance. There are more permutations in a Omaha hand, so the long run is even longer, but the hand with best equity at that moment will always be the one where you get profit, like in any other poker game.

Other point you're wrong about is the low chances of win, as in Hold'em you have the same probability of getting dealt the winning hand as any other player. But the game is different. In hold'em with an excellent pre-flop and a decent post flop play you can beat many games. In Omaha post flop play is by far more important than in Hold'em.

     
  19-Jan-10, 14:01   #9
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r1z0r3 

Joined: Feb '08
Location: Sweden
Age: 30 (M)
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You played it great, what else can you do? its just the unlucky river card who messed it up :/ gl in the future Agree

     
  19-Jan-10, 14:05   #10
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pmgignac 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Canada
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 302
Posted by r1z0r3:
You played it great, what else can you do? its just the unlucky river card who messed it up :/ gl in the future Agree


its always that damn killer river kills my aces on both omaha and hold-em just sucks (they should change the rules and stop giving a river its uselless I dont need it to win) Blink

     
  19-Jan-10, 14:08   #11
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SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 4873
Posted by racpxt:
Variance is not luck, and that's what Omaha has more than Hold'em, big pure hard variance. There are more permutations in a Omaha hand, so the long run is even longer.

In hold'em with an excellent pre-flop and a decent post flop play you can beat many games. In Omaha post flop play is by far more important than in Hold'em.

Agree Agree
i think omaha is much more skill than holdem like as racpxt said.
don't play much of it as i am a donk at it, but hope to learn it some day.

     
  19-Jan-10, 14:29   #12
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DaMessiah666 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Spain
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 1487
I've won more money in Omaha PL with hands like 2345 or TJKQ, even two suited cards than with 2 pairs in my hands. It's only my own experience

     
  19-Jan-10, 14:59   #13
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mazas 
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Lithuania
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 2805
omaha is hard game and more for donkeys or fishes because they can win some more and puting big all in with cards till 10 because u easy can catch straight so its easy way to loose money play omaha better play holdem and u really be on top with AA or KK in hand
good luck all and be happy

     
  19-Jan-10, 14:59   #14
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dozn01 

Joined: Sep '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 5000
just plain unlucky, could you of just called to see the flop instead of going all in?

     
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