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  21-Feb-10, 22:37   #21

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  22-Feb-10, 01:17   #22
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I was playing a $22 [+$2] deepstack [5000 chip start] the other night on an ipoker skin, the game , as ever , was very tight to start,. nobody raising, just calling to see flops. I'd not played more than 2 hands before being dealt AA in a late pos. It had folded around to me, hich you hate see on that hand. I threw in a 5 x BB raise and only found one caller. Flop came 652, I thought it might be ok, seeing as only one caller, possibly with high cards/high pair but i also considered he could easily have an A or even A4, he raised, I re-raised all in to scare ... fecker had 55 .... what can you do? there isn't a right or wrong, just shite luck.

  22-Feb-10, 01:32   #23
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you are on the short stack i would have gone all-in. If everybody folds you get 2400 plus but if somebody call something like that usually happen. Forty percent of the time the worst hand wins.

  22-Feb-10, 07:59   #24
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Posted by shokaku:
You have only 10BB going in that hand. Don't just raise, go all-in preflop. You can't raise and give up later in that hand any more.

exactly this!!!!

  22-Feb-10, 08:13   #25
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how the heck can you limp aces. you relly have to be beginner to do this( i did it), but those days are gone for good now

  22-Feb-10, 11:44   #26
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I would mostly raise with AA. It realy sucks to see a flop with for example 345 then, because you have a good hand but there will probably be someone with a 2 or 6.

  22-Feb-10, 13:18   #27

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Yeah raise by all means but it is more essential (i feel) to know when you are / might be beaten.
Coming in to pots with big hands are wicked but getting out of pots when the chips are down and your sitting with AA or KK isnt as easy. Disagree
If AA won every time we'd all love the game.

  22-Feb-10, 13:36   #28

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Posted by ierons:
I say, 100% of the time, you have to raise with AA, and 97.99% of the time with KK or even QQ.

What I tend to do, (this is just the way I play, I don't think it's good or bad) is raise usually at least 5x if I have QQ preflop. Usually raise less with AA, but always raise.

As for any other cards, you can play them any other way, position matters, etc. etc.

I always ask myself, with a starting hand, "What would I (reasonably) like the flop to be?" Of course if you have AA you probably want the flop to be AAK so you can't be beat, but that is not going to happen. If you have limped, 3 callers, and the flop is 4, 5, 6 then what do you do??? You shouldn't have given the guy with 3, 7 suited the chance to call.

I do not think the correct answer to this is even "depends on the circumstances". I think that is the correct answer to ANY other poker question th0

definitely, raise all-in...

  22-Feb-10, 15:42   #29

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surely you can't limp with aces and then expect to win everytime.
most people don't realise AA doesn't guarantee a win and still you gotta play post-flop and might have to fold considering your opponents and flop

  22-Feb-10, 15:53   #30
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Posted by shokaku:
One needs a very good reason not to raise with AA. Thin out the field, so you will not be beaten by junk hands that have hitten the board very good.

That's it!!!!

  22-Feb-10, 16:37   #31
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You indeed have to raise, depending on how many players are in the hand, try to raise as much as you can because you want very few callers, but expect the worst when you have aces lol i was playing $1/$2 blinds on pkr baught in for 200$ very first hand got delt AA, 4 callers i raise too 16$ 1 person reraises me to 32$ ii take my time and reraise to 64$ he calls, flop comes 10 7 7, i check and he pushes allin, i call... turn 7 river 10. oh well that happens alot to me i kinda get used to it now. Aww crap!

  22-Feb-10, 16:50   #32

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Raise and don't be pissed off if they get cracked.. happens all the time online Smile

  22-Feb-10, 17:15   #33
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I think you play well, maybe I will do a Cbet a little higher. The other one call with a TP and good kicker, is just the situation we want.. except the f*** K, of course.

Never, never, never limp AA.

Bye and better luck next time!!

  22-Feb-10, 20:23   #34

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Posted by Chartoule:

Never, never, never limp AA.

Thats rubish.
One example where limping AA is really cool i had in a tournament.

BB was about 400. it is turbo so 400 is pretty much of a stack.
I find AA UTG (maybe UTG+1 or something).

The BB hat 420 for the hand, so 400 went into the pot. I know people make crazy limps and calls.
So i call. many others does so too. The BB will not check here. So i´m pretty sure it will be my turn preflop once more no matter if others raise or just call, BB will shove his last 20. So i can limp-raise here very nice, get a fat pot (and maybe some other calls, because somenone comitted himself).
I loved it Blink

In poker, there exists no never !

  23-Feb-10, 13:06   #35

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it depends of the position you have at the table.. if you are in early or middle position you sure need a raise there Thumbs Up

  23-Feb-10, 13:42   #36

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Always raise! Dollar Thumbs Up Cool

  23-Feb-10, 18:48   #37
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i always raise, if i slow play AA i could lose alot!

  23-Feb-10, 18:55   #38

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I raise them every time unless I'm first to act at a 9-10 player table then I limp and usually reraise

  23-Feb-10, 20:22   #39

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i would suggest that 2 out of 5 time you should try to slowplay aces, but usually if there is some action preflop then try to raise it. Blink

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