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I played a cash game on line $.50-1. I have pockets AA, so i raise 4 times the blind. I'm in the early postion. 2 people called. The flop is J,8,2. I checked to see if somebody caught a pair. The next person check and the 3 raised $3. I called other person folded. turn is K. So i bet $5 to see what he does. He reraise $10. I called and the river is 5. So no straight or flush on the board, so i'm thinking i've got the best hand. So i bet $10 and he goes all in which was $68. I had $48. I had a feeling he had me beat but i had to call, he had set of 2. Should i have folded or Could i have play it better.
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well ul m8 im not sure maybe u should have trusted your gut think thats the best way i find when i trust my gut thats when i make money. Its always a bit painfull when ur As run into a set, i would have maybe check-call on the river as i may have thought he had KJ and maybe he would have not went all in but he may have did that anyway. Thats what i hate about As by the time i get to the river im never to confident its only 1 pair after all. it depends on your customer to, you are only beating 1 pair and hes playing it strong is this guy going to stick all his money in on 1 pair. anyway gl
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Thanks flippedchip what u said about all your money in on a pair thats true even 2 pair. Then again depending on the donks i seen them go all in on top pair but middle kicker.
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Aces are not nuts, so dont slowplay, bet after flop. Yes, its hard to see set, but if you raise preflop, cb after flop and somebody reraises you, it gives you something to think about. And about slowplay - your opponet could have KJ instead and you did let him see turn to get two pairs.
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If one gets raised at the turn it is usualy a sign of a strong hand one is up against. I would not have called the all in on the river against any decent player.
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Posted by johnnygan: I played a cash game on line $.50-1. I have pockets AA, so i raise 4 times the blind. I'm in the early postion. 2 people called. The flop is J,8,2. I checked to see if somebody caught a pair. The next person check and the 3 raised $3. I called other person folded. turn is K. So i bet $5 to see what he does. He reraise $10. I called and the river is 5. So no straight or flush on the board, so i'm thinking i've got the best hand. So i bet $10 and he goes all in which was $68. I had $48. I had a feeling he had me beat but i had to call, he had set of 2. Should i have folded or Could i have play it better.
As you were sitting there with the best hand pre flop AA I understand its difficalt to let them go. What you need to think about is the fact you are only infront befor the flop so unless you can predict or have a really good read on you op's you always need to think about some one coming in with a pocket pair. This said if you are raising 4X then you should get the small PP's out of it, but as you are well aware you didnt. Can you take the blame for not susspecting some one had trips? no flush or straight on the board....yeah but there can ALWAYS be trips cant there! You should always think about any hand that can have you beat not just the top hands..... it can be hard to lay down an over pair but it is a part of the moden game top pair.....HA Over pair....HA. There not always gonna win are they? So yes you could have layed it down as he was re-raising you for a reason yeah..... not many players bluff now (i have found) Keep it real and get ready to dump those Aces...lol
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Tough one.... Those aces are really tough to slowplay if you're up against a pair who makes their set. No real way to know if he makes 2 pairs as well. Follow your gut in these cases, I think. Running Aces to the river is always risky. A good read on your opponents is the only thing that will help you in that situation, I think...
When an op set mines it is hard to tell how strong there hand is. I wouldn't have checked the flop, instead would of c - bet, as a matter of fact you should always c - bet because if they have any pp you just letting them hang around giving them a chance to hit. When you c - bet the one op would have folded (like they did) and then it would have given you a chance to narrow in on the other. When he came over the top all in that should of been your indicator that you were beat, therefore saving the rest of your stack. I know it's tuff to lay down AA, I know it is for me and many others, especially when the board sucks with no flush/straights potentials. But it's poker, the more you come across defeats like this the more experience you get in the betting patterns and how the hand was played so you can hopefully avoid this in the future. I love getting pp and set mining people with AA or KK, I win some good pots doing that.
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Posted by SuperNoob:
Posted by johnnygan: How do u know if u got the best hand
at showdown
i think u need to have some good player reads and experience to know where you stand in a hand and don't fall for tht ' he has nothing ' crap
its all in the experience you get when you loose them a couple of times you will understand more and always listen to your feelings its your best poker friend
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Hi!!
Only a mistake i think, in flop better reraise. If the other calls, pot control (call a check/reraise with that kind of flop.. he have something) until showdown.
In any way with that kind of board is difficult fold aces.
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Hello everybody! You played well pre-flop in my opinion. No problem the above. For the cons you will have to be more aggressive on the flop. For you will have seen that there was strong resistance. Coming very soon, new post lol!
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I think that was just an unlucky flop, happens from time to time, I once caught a set on the flop, went all in, he got AA and the turn was another A and i was crushed, lost about 400$ there.
I would never check the flop with Aces on that board. If u bet out on the flop, villian would have had to tip you off with his relative hand strength which may have been enough to possibly let your aces go on later streets. It can be hard to pick up on sets, just tonight I lost a good chunk of change to them 3 times, which in turn turned a modestly profitable session into a loss for the night.
If I knew this I would be the richest man in the world The problem is always the same: go all in preflop risking to collect almost nothing, betting small taking some risks or limping taking big risks ?
omaha although has higher variance..its much more logical. anybody who thinks clearly can figure things out.bluffing in omaha is more skillful too. unlike holdem where donks go all in because they dont know what to do next
The problem is always the same: go all in preflop risking to collect almost nothing, 
