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Can imagine if full tilt had bad beat jackpot.... Big Smile
They would pay out 2 times a week....Thats the worst place for bad beats..it just so bad..but I like playing there despite that...but I am really starting to get sick of it...it just happens way too much there...it seems they want to try induce action on the tables just bye the way cards come out..it seems like every body has cards to play every hand....maybe its just me but Im starting to see pattern..some one always has cards...too beat you with... Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
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started today session again today but stopped after 7 sitngos, I just cant understand what is going on there :S how I got so many bad beats.. seems to me like there is impossible to win

http://www.pokkerhiiumaal.com/badbeat/030310a/sick2.htm

1.tourney: I made a big rise preflop and he made rerise and I went all in prelfop(Y)
2. tourney: I call his all in coz he has so few chips left, but I got beated on river ofcourse
3. tourney: Made big rise preflop and ofcourse he calls me with J9 and hited both. all in on flop
4. toruney: here is bad play by me.. a lil bit tilt.. made rais preflop, got call.. I bet on flop.. got call and then all in
3. tourney:
5. tourney: all in on flop
6. tourney: final table(18 players sng) I went all in(blinds was high) and got call

SICK

     
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H1. UL
H2 400 is a nice slice of your stack, you can fold here.
H3. UL But agin its eairly days.....
H4 You know.
H5 TPTK again its no at automatc all in.
H6 right play.

These are not actuall BB, but can see your point, however most situations are avoidable.
Seams like you all ways ready to push all your chips in, try taking anouther approch, ther is value in folding!!
GL 2 U.

     
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Wow it seems as thought you've been struck by some pretty bad variance right there. Keep grinding, the boom heater is due soon Thumbs Up

     
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Uh oh thats some sick stuff o0 i feel for u Tongue never had so bad beats in 1day...if u had them in 1day Tongue as some1 said...RIGGED :]

     
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there is a saying - allow fish/donk win some pots, so they continue to play like that. They are paying bills after all Big Smile

     
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Got the same.

Have 3 of a kind on the flop, 3 different types of cards on table. Guy goes allin and he has 1 pair. Then on the river and turn 2 copper felt, and what you think, he has also 2 of them. It happens all the time by me...

     
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didnt play for two days, try to play 6 sng-s yesturday.. THIS IS UNBELIEVEBAL, what is going on there. I have the feeleing like full tilt has some status on the players, that some players cant win or smt.. very strange..

I didnt make sreenshots yesturday, but I lost all these tourneys. I just give some examples how:
Full house against full house, AA vs 1010(all in preflop), then I hited stright on flop but beated on the river, gots flush with his last card. ands so on and so on.

If you all seethese sessions beats like I always go, please tell me is it normal and is it possible to win in long term and bankroll management works for there?
I have played about 200 sng - and won about 14 of them and rest of them I have lost with bad beats and maybe 10 of them about my own bad play.

There ise two possibilities, that I am a very bad player, or there are something so wrong going on.
bad beat cant come about 7/10 of the games.


     
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I see you never have any chips left when the river comes, how about slowing it down sometimes, not always, aggresive is still the best. I don't know, I play on PS and for a long time the bad beats were minimal but yesterday kept getting beat by lower pp's. It happens, keep playing the same way, if you keep losing, you're playing bad.

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Posted by chrystyna:
didnt play for two days, try to play 6 sng-s yesturday.. THIS IS UNBELIEVEBAL, what is going on there. I have the feeleing like full tilt has some status on the players, that some players cant win or smt.. very strange..

I didnt make sreenshots yesturday, but I lost all these tourneys. I just give some examples how:
Full house against full house, AA vs 1010(all in preflop), then I hited stright on flop but beated on the river, gots flush with his last card. ands so on and so on.

If you all seethese sessions beats like I always go, please tell me is it normal and is it possible to win in long term and bankroll management works for there?
I have played about 200 sng - and won about 14 of them and rest of them I have lost with bad beats and maybe 10 of them about my own bad play.

There ise two possibilities, that I am a very bad player, or there are something so wrong going on.
bad beat cant come about 7/10 of the games.



The thing is, the cards are gonna b dealt that way, all the time, crazy deals are going on, it's just your bad luck (FOR NOW) that you are on the losing end of those deals, if you really are getting bad beats everytime, you wil start winning almost everytime you get you chips in the middle with the better hand, just remember one thing: the better hand is not always worth risking your entire stack.

I don't know, I'm just trying to help you out, cause I know how bad plays/players can make you sick, but remember if there were only good players it would be a lot harder to make money playing poker.

     
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KDRPKR has a valid point, not that I think you will read it, but for those who do look over this they might be able to plug some leaks.
LAY OFF THE ALL IN, most of the time your all in when loads of hands can beat you, also id suggest finding out what a bad beat is as you havent got any.
Think im wasting my time but hey Ill give it a shoot, PICS are useless, unless they have a nice set of knockers showing, so post some HH, from the pics shown would be nice, lets see if we can put a stop to this.

     
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i heard some rumours about fulltilt, give to the players really weird hands like aces and kings flying everytime just for the players play crazy and give more rake for the site. i dontknow if its true or not, but i admit that in fulltilt i had the craziest hands ever comparing with the other sites i have played.
why you dont change the site?? if you play lots of tournments try pokerstars, the opponents are really fish too and you have much more options.
lo0oking at the pic its obvious you have been outplayed by some donks, and other hands seem normal bad beat.
dont overplay hands like AK AQ because in the end they can be just ace high, and dont slow play hands like AA or KK because you can be beated in the flop and then the opponent doesnt give up, i think its pretty much what happened in some hands.
today per example i started playingin a nl10 table so the first hand i had J7 nobody re raised pre flop the flop comes 456 and with the approach i re raised 3xbb the guy after me re raised 4x my 30 cents and i obvious called the turn comesan 8 and he had his pocket aces beated. he lost 4 bucks cause he slowplayed the hand, maybe he thought i was a donk or something, but the thing is if he re raised pre flop i would never play the j7.
dont fall in love with TP or TK and i dont play AA and KK

     
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yea i agree with the 2 above i play alot of multi table sngs and u do seem to stick the chips in on alot of scary boards and always seems to be the big hands pre flop and not the best of hands post but some of the pics do have some scary boards on them. im pretty much saying the same as above but try maybe keeping the pots a little smaller and on paired boards when someone gos all in just because u have As its not a insta call its all about survival after all.
PS maybe try another site because i know what u mean ive not played alot on full but in low stakes sng the players seem really bad and get lucky alot. i had a laugh the last time i was on there players calling big raises with QJ off missing the flop calling another big raise hitting the Q and i had to fold my Js on the river because i knew she was stupid enough to call the flop with air and get lucky, I asked her why she called she said she had a really good chace of hitting and half the room agreed then i asked why call pre with that just to see what she said another guy said 9 handed QJ is a good hand to call a raise lol yea i dont like the site not low stakes anyway gl

     
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My answer is simple: poker is 75% strategy and 25% luck. I went all-in with two Aces and still lost to an opponent who won the last three hands with low cards unpaired, unsuited cards. Just wanna say you got to have some luck too that day and sometimes Lady Luck sits on your lap.

     
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Think you are on the right track, with many of those hands. But you dont have the luck on your side right now Thumbs Up

     
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Take it as a down swing. There will come times when you suck out others holding K2... depending on the samplesize you are playing bad beats get less and less annoying. Just happens... but when you got the feeling that you are running bad just stop playing take a break and it might get better.

     
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Posted by SuperNoob:
wow nice collection Tongue
i think its just bad players getting lucky and hitting their outers.
its too small sample size to make any conclusion, maybe its just a bad streak and your luck will improve in future or maybe your table image is pretty bad that people don't fold their weak hands


I agree.
I lost about 10 S&G's in a row yesterday!! Never happened.
Crazy stuff like AQ against 96, A9s against 84 etc.
went out in fourth about 6-7 times like that.

I was getting upset, watched TV for a couple of hours, and played a freeroll together with S&G's (one at a time) and won 3 of them in a row.

So just a bad run, is my guess.

     
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I completely disagree that Full Tilt should be a place where you suffer more bad beats than other sites. It is just variance.

I myself just underwent a period with so many bad beats there it even made me doubt my own skills. but finally in the last couple of days I am back to winning and I hope it will keep on for a long period Smile

I have to admit one thing though. On Pokerstars I make around 2,25 dollars on an average buy-in of approximately 6,50 dollars in singletable SNG's. On Full Tilt I haven't made more than like 0,50 dollars per game. To the story it should be noted that I played on Full Tilt before I learned to be "good" at poker. That explains some of it, but even recently I have very big problems breaking the deadlock on Full Tilt in single table SNG's.

Keep up the good work and you will get rewarded. Variance will bring ups and downs. To decrease it you might want to avoid getting all-in preflop, but then again don't become to passive especially when you are a lowstack.


     
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Okey.. I have no word anymore. The sickest experience of all the time.. Here is the end of story.
I LOST ALL MY BANKROLL.
I started 2 month ago, I used bankroll management and played all the right way.. read more strategyes fallow these and listen pros adviceses. But what I got? Nothing.. just 2 months wast of my time.. played 2 months about everyday and about 30K hands.

You have seen my previous post whera are the bad beats, after I lost abou 50% bankroll.. I decided to start cash, did it before also and its look fine for me, but what we see.. bad beats are never endging for me :S

here are the screenshots how I went broke:
http://www.pokkerhiiumaal.com/badbeat/sick/sicksick.htm

pic1: big rise preflop and put his all in later, but ofcourse he hited his 2 on the table
pic2: push his all in on the flop, was very agressiv player and very loose
pic3: I made big rise on turn cos afraid his flus, but she put all in, and ofcourse I called, but afrayd hi got set, but no.
pic4: Made rise preflop and hited.. I have few chips left and moved all in.. he called me on the flop
pic5: no word.. just I made big rise preflop! nice call (Y) and ofcourse big rise on flop too
pic6: I called his rise preflop and after I saw flop.. he bets and I knew it he has nothing and moved all in.. cos few chips
pic7: called his rise preflop.. then called his bets till turn.. on turn I moved all in. and ofcourse wonderful river for me
pic8:rivered again Smile
pic9 sameas piv7
pic10: I made bir rise preflop and got amazing call.. no word
pic11: this was the sickest one.. preflop he rised and I make a rerise and he and another player calls and on turn I push more and he went all in.. I afrayd that hi hits his set or smt other player folds and I called and If I saw his card I tought that what a joke.. but yeah.. wonderful river again
pic12:another sick river
pic13=pic12
pic14: that was just bad luck for me..
pic15: just wonderful

FULL TILT SUCKS!!

     
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well well well thats how we do it on FTP...
You have to have the worst hand when the cards come over then you win...lol
But seriously its not like this alll the time on FTP honestly.
You have had a very bad run of luck thats all dont read too much into it i'm sure you'll bounce back.
Dont give up on FTP Blink

     
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Posted by chrystyna:
Okey.. some time ago I post here that I got so many bad beats in full tilt. and this is so sick.And it continues.. I have played now a month and no results(use bankrollmanagement and everything, my usual VPI is above 20 and PRF is about 10 and agf is about 40. I just decided to show you my sessions bad beats and how they go, to ask you help, whats wrong in my game?? or just full tilt is so sick place?

RESULTS: okey.. todays session, I played 15 sng, total buy in about 25 and won 4,50 it means that I lost 13 games and won 1. some of these are multi table(18, 27 and 45 players) time: start 10.14 end 12.15

pics: http://www.pokkerhiiumaal.com/badbeat/sick.htm
tourney 1 - final table big rise on preflop and all in on flop
tourney2- final table and all in preflop
tourney4 - had bb and no rises I check, hit two pair on flop and I went all in
tourney5- called min rise preflop and went all in on flop (not so good play)
tourney6 - made big rise preflop and went all in postflop
tourney7- first hand in tourney.. called all in preflop(was a lil bit tilt already)
tourney8 - all in on flop
tourney9 - preflop big rise, flop rise and turn all in
tourney10 - big rise preflop.. all in on flop
tourney11 - got an rise preflop made rerise and flop went all in
tourney12 all in preflop
tourney13 - made big rise preflop all in on flop
tourney14 - called 2xbb rise preflop and checked on flop, he bets ia called, turn he checked I bet and river all in

What I do wron.. or this is normal? It happened me all the time :S


only, a lot of bad luck!!!!

     
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