Super turbos can definatly be played profitably. Some pros play huge numbers of them. Your edge is usually small but your throughput is high so it will generally be a low variance form of poker. In the same way that late sections of tournaments can be played better and worse.
In general players need to both tighten up and also loosen up depending on position. Secondly i dont see any purpose in any raise apart from the shove. I see some players dropping excessive numbers of chips by limp folding to shoves by other players. If you hand isnt good enough to shove dont play it.
The biggest mistakes I personally see are early position shoves with low pocket pairs. If you get called you are either dominated or its a coin flip. And no point will you realistically dominate with 44 if you get a call. Imo before middle position just dump all pairs under 7's. In a similar situation its probably not worth playing a Hand like AQ in late position if there has already been a shove and call. Chances of you being dominate are already high. I will often drop AJ to a single shove from early position on the table
In late position players are often too tight. The percentage of your stack thats in the middle already from just blinds makes late position shoves very important. If you wake up with any two cards above tens (TJ, TQ, KJ etc) or pretty much any ace (i am resistant to shove worse than A5, but it depends) it is usually a good idea to shove. If you call you don't expect to be a favorite but the chance of picking up chips without seeing a flop is worth pursuing.
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There is atleast one good thing about those SnGs. If you know, that you dont have the patient to olay long MTT or SnG propertly, you should play those turbos. Be tight in early pos and aggressor in late, if youre first to shove. But make sure you dont play over your BR, because the variance is high. And dont tilt.
of course its not luck. the top 10 in profit every year is the same few guys. i made over 4k playing 3.8 superburbos in less than 4k games. have not played for a long time now cos my obsession with the leaderboard was causing me too much pain. great that they increased the min stakes to 5.5? i think, no more 3.8 on ftp. less donks.
Joined: May '09
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Hi leroi21.
I think the only strategy is play only ICM until you double your stack. Is usefull make a table with a ICM-program. Superturbo SnG in FTP is full of fish, are really profitable.
No strategy for super turbo. Only hope to caught a monster hand and double your chips and steal blinds in late positions. No more than that. Because of that I dislike them
Joined: Mar '10
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Ive played quite a bit of them, the 6 player ones are if your looking to place are very decent to do so. just be patient. let the other people go for it and take each other out. if you do this you can wait for a premium hand, ive noticed you will end up with atleast one awesome hand almost everytime. on the heads up ones those are a little more playable, a good stratedgy ( works about 7.7 out of 10 games averag) raise to 90 chips if you want to rasse to get them off the hand, by doing this more than likely they will fold if they call they usually go allin, with this atleast you still have chips left if you raise with abluff but overall its worth it to see them more than likely fold
Posted by NetFlAsH: Tight ! Let the others screw up first...
You forget that everybody who plays super turbo plays tight! You think you are the different but, in fact, you are playing like everyone seat there. I haven't play any turbo reaching the money after ten hands. As I said, only two determinant factors: luck (catching monster hands) & courage (stealing blinds)
