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  25-May-10, 07:17   #1
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bless9 

Joined: Feb '09
Location: Finland
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 328
I played this hand in cash table no-limit . 0.25$/ 0.50$
three players

one raises preflop 0.60$, im second I call with 55, third calls also 0.60$.

Flop is 5 A J , I hit set on flop.
all different, no afraid of flush, I raise all in 32$.




Result: both of em called, other with A4, that was kind of player I wanted along with the pot.
Other had A A. So he won the pot. Nothing changed in later cards.


What do you think? Good play, bad play or just had bad luck?

     
  25-May-10, 07:40   #2
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watoba 
Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 696
very unlucky but why u go all in.Normaly u got a very strong hand u take big money from this pot when any of the players got an A.Make a good bet to make the pot bigger.I dont know the players on the table but when u got good players on the table they fold an A with a weak kicker when u go all in.When u play pot they called and u got money on the river.You say no risk of a flush on the flop so u got only a few riski cards in the moment KQ,KT,QT,AJ,43 so the players got not so many outs.Ok maybe one of the player got KQ and the other AJ thats was bad but u got on the flop more then 65% to win these hand.So i think that was a bad play

     
  25-May-10, 07:41   #3
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SCDossett 
Joined: Sep '07
Location: New Zealand
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 626
Mostly unlucky. However i still dont like the allin on the flop.

In general I think you should make a normal 3/4 - pot sized raise on that flop. If you play all of your sets like that people will put notes on you and not call with anything less than the nuts.

Set over set you are almost gauranteed to get all your money in the middle.

     
  25-May-10, 08:10   #4
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DaMessiah666 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Spain
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 1487
Posted by bless9:
I played this hand in cash table no-limit . 0.25$/ 0.50$
three players

one raises preflop 0.60$, im second I call with 55, third calls also 0.60$.

Flop is 5 A J , I hit set on flop.
all different, no afraid of flush, I raise all in 32$.




Result: both of em called, other with A4, that was kind of player I wanted along with the pot.
Other had A A. So he won the pot. Nothing changed in later cards.


What do you think? Good play, bad play or just had bad luck?

No matter what you have done ... in any case you were dead. You would'nt never folded your trips. If you bet 3/4pot, your opponent would re-raise, you call or all-in ... it doesn't matter .. bad luck in any case.
By the way, congrats for Atletico's Europa League Blink

     
  25-May-10, 09:16   #5
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 3847
Posted by SCDossett:
Mostly unlucky. However i still dont like the allin on the flop.

In general I think you should make a normal 3/4 - pot sized raise on that flop. If you play all of your sets like that people will put notes on you and not call with anything less than the nuts.

Set over set you are almost gauranteed to get all your money in the middle.



This is, in my opinion, an intelligent comment: your destiny in this hand was to put all your money in the pot and to lose them all (unfortunately), but the way you put your money in the middle makes the difference for the future hands

+1 for Dossett

     
  25-May-10, 09:38   #6
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mazas 
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Lithuania
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 2805
set is good hand and tyhink u play good but still not push all in in this situation i think it u must do reraise and u ll see that heppens now u just start push hard and someone have good pot off win Smile
u just was unlucky and a4 owner is really dumb and donked player

good luck all Tongue

     
  25-May-10, 10:08   #7
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bless9 

Joined: Feb '09
Location: Finland
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 328
They were aggressive players. That's why I believe they buy my big raise.
Well I went to table with 6$, had 33$ before this hand, should stopped then.
After this had 8$, made from there to 12$, and then left, so still not bad because I doubled from what I brought in, but disappointed of this hand still.

I believe this was first time I got beat by higher set on flop, when playing table up to 5 players.
It is not happening very often.





     
  25-May-10, 10:43   #8
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 6482
I dont like the allin on the flop, but mostly just because I see that getting rid of the hands like A 4 that you want calling..

I mean, there prob wasnt any getting away from it, if you raised, AA would have re-raised and by the river you'd be allin/committed anyway.

IMO bad luck and in most times your gonna lose your stack here.

     
  25-May-10, 11:19   #9
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 6690
Set over set is just bad luck. Reload and continue.

But i doubt, if it is the right play to go all in on the flop when so pot is still that small.

     
  25-May-10, 11:46   #10
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watoba 
Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 696
from 6 to 33$ was a nice run.My meaning is better u got out u have win much and open a new table so u lost not all what u have win.I do it so.When i not make this is very offen i get a strong hand and was beaten like u.
btw playing with 6$ and blind 0.25/0.50 is pure gambling and not the right way only u want have a little bit gambling fun Blink

Edited by watoba (25 May 2010 @ 11:51 GMT)


     
  25-May-10, 14:21   #11
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oll1e999 

Joined: Jun '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 483
its unlucky but why would you go all in for $32?

     
  25-May-10, 20:14   #12
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jakamura 
Joined: Jul '09
Location: Croatia
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 6
you played this hand poorly, but still set over set is just bad luck.

     
  27-May-10, 15:11   #13
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MANUEDO 
Joined: Apr '08
Location: Italy
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1955
Bit unlucky for finding a fish and a ( half ) shark in same table. I would have pushed as you did, avoiding to go all in ( you were out of position too ) and probably, after your raise the winner one would have re-raised, allowing you to save money Blink maybe Big Smile

     
  27-May-10, 15:21   #14
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stojaca 
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Serbia
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 290
Posted by bless9:
I played this hand in cash table no-limit . 0.25$/ 0.50$
three players

one raises preflop 0.60$, im second I call with 55, third calls also 0.60$.

Flop is 5 A J , I hit set on flop.
all different, no afraid of flush, I raise all in 32$.




Result: both of em called, other with A4, that was kind of player I wanted along with the pot.
Other had A A. So he won the pot. Nothing changed in later cards.


What do you think? Good play, bad play or just had bad luck?



You played ok, just had bad luck. I'll play this hand same as you played it.

     
  27-May-10, 15:28   #15
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NaziPal 
Joined: May '10
Location: Philippines
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 104
That's the nature of online poker games, since you are playing many more hands than usual, you would be seeing more set-ups like these.
Also i believe that most if not all online poker software out there has a slightly adjusted chance of having set over sets, because that way pots get bigger and thus the rake gets bigger too.
Just my opinion.

     
  27-May-10, 16:29   #16
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Flippedchips 

Joined: Dec '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 2087
unlucky Thumbs Up

     
  27-May-10, 19:57   #17
  0 
ZmxPowah 
Joined: Nov '09
Location: Poland
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 1189
set vs set it's standart cooler u couldn't do anything...
But going all-in at flop it's rlly stupid decision u can really scare off lower aces in normal players or some 2 pairs...

     
  27-May-10, 20:43   #18
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Myeng 
Joined: Dec '09
Location: Belgium
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 133
Well it's just being unlucky, was in the same scenario then you few days ago, hit a set of fives on a rainbow no draw flop, after my reraise opponent puts me all in, but for me it turned out being very lucky as I hit another 5 on the turn Tongue

     
  28-May-10, 01:22   #19
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psycokiller 
Joined: Sep '09
Location: Canada
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 776
Sure u hit a set...the BOTTOM set. The guy with top set was just praying for a guy like u to shove with bottom set.

     
  28-May-10, 06:08   #20
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mifomo 
Joined: May '10
Location: Netherlands
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 4
I think you were really unlucky. The chance that somybody beads you with that hand is small.
Bu why did you go all in? In your case you could think about raising a bit lower to cash more. But that always remains a risk.

Cheers

     
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