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Posted by bless9:
Im surprised how many of yall say you call in flop after QQ7 with JJ

If has Q then chance to win with JJ is 7%.


IF you have it.... IF not.......?!when two queens are out, how realistic is it you have another one...?

     
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yea but its a very good chance u dont have the Q and i would maybe say going all in looks a little desperate to take the pot. May i ask why did u just go all in, to me it looks like u want to get him to fold Confused last thing i want to the other guy to do is fold here. This may of came into the guys thinking whys he just going all in if u have hit that flop but all the same u were unlucky

     
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Posted by Flippedchips:
yea but its a very good chance u dont have the Q and i would maybe say going all in looks a little desperate to take the pot. May i ask why did u just go all in, to me it looks like u want to get him to fold Confused last thing i want to the other guy to do is fold here. This may of came into the guys thinking whys he just going all in if u have hit that flop but all the same u were unlucky


yeah, check to let him contibet would be an alternartive. I mean, if he reraises, he could have AA,KK, AK
AA and KK he would never fold unless he is a pretty good player.

AK he would fold if you just push. So give him chance to a conti bet and raise him. looks more strong and you may get more chips in from him, when he has nothing at all.

NOW, as i just said, AA and KK he wouldnt fold. Would you? I guess the answer now will be "no". But why? If you would play AA and KK there, why shouldnt you play JJ aswell? In both cases it means you are behind when opponent has a Q. But KK is mor pretty than JJ ?!

     
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I could fold AA / KK , if in flop two QQ, depends of my read of opponent, if he is tight player, I would fold, but if he makes loses bets, Id probably call. But yes this is always tough decision to make.

I would raised more tho preflop with AA // KK, to avoid this situation.

its happened me too often that I have AA / KK, and i place to small bet preflop, then other has medium pair (9-9) for example then he hits set in flop, and I look no risk at table, he also checks or bets. Then I 80% of times lose.

Last two times how I played AA / KK

only checked king king, flop small cards. one player gets pair, turn i bet , he raises, with small pair on table, , I call , no exchange in river, i raise more, he obviously calls, with set.

Next time I played all in AA pre flop, but didnt profit much at all from that good cards, because one player was thinking long time, but he also would. I tried to show insecure bodylanguage, but didnt bluff him Big Smile

     
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Hey, thats just a cooler that he rivered you with one of his 2 outs... oh well it happens.
However calling a reraise OOP with AQo is pretty -EV long term, its something i rarely do though, so many bad situations, so many bad flops were you have no choice but to check-fold.

     
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Posted by bless9:
I played this in live game.

blinds are 2�.
I raise 20�. One player raises to 40�. Others fold, I call.

Flop QQ7

I raise all in 130�. Other calls, turn 9, river J.

I show AQ, other shows JJ. Aww crap!

Now how unlucky is that, I could undestand if he called pocket 77, but this was mad.


Bad things always happens to good players

     
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Posted by Mast3rKush:
calling a reraise OOP with AQo is pretty -EV long term, its something i rarely do though, so many bad situations, so many bad flops were you have no choice but to check-fold.


I played that hand because I was sit almost hour without doing nothing, Finally got decent cards, so I wanted to play em I also had good position this hand, I was last to act, before player who had blind. So I tried to make him fold preflop, or if nothing comes in flop, then rebet ace high usual game, and see how it goes, if he raises then i fold.

I dont have patience for livegame, I will focus back on now online game.

     
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Blinds 2 and you raise 20? Most of time people raise high the cards they are not 100% sure like AK... and your AQ ass well. So he was thinking you have some AK

Aww crap!

     
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i agree with you, after seeing that flop i would almost instanstly fold pocket jacks. Just look at it as if it was a hand at a final table in a huge tourny, and the guy with pocket jacks would be all in if he commited his jacks. Ya most likely he should and would fold.Good luck dude. Worship Spade Worship Club Worship

     
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