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sit and go tables are definately rigged because they are all run on a time scale,faster they finish more money made for site, mtts no difference to poker site and cash has lot of set on set flush on flush etc. to make more rake for site. I went to high coart in states and the poker sites won and also got to block most of the case being released to public.FACT
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But why have the sites created superuser accounts that have been hacked and exploited by people ? This is 100 % sure thing that superusers account exists, but why ?
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0f cause it rigged if i all the g00d played w0n and the s**t 0nes l0st they w0uld n0t play. the cash is jsut like m0ved ar0und. the rng will screw u if u are winning 2 many hands at a cash game. u can win 0n the sites but at a much sl0wer rate than if it was rand0m. n0 0ne audits the s0ftware and a while back a t0p university f0und that they c0uld predisct the cards and full tilt fixed this, but evert 0ne said b4 that it was rand0m, s0 they were all wr0ng s0 wats t0 say pe0ple still aint wr0ng, The reas0n being is pe0ple l0se they m0ney and they kn0w they are been cheatd, if they except it then they kn0w that they must be retarded f0r playing they in the first place
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Rigged - To manipulate dishonestly for personal gain..yep I say rigged, but its falling my way so all is good Poker is no more rigged than a US election so only the real powerfull at the top manage to do damage the rest just try. Anything with money involved has someone down the line cheating anouther out of it...as said above thats just life.
yeah and of course if the money goes back and forth between players. That's how the sites get the most rake of course. So it is in their interest that this happens.
And what Bigfoot says where the big money is their is always cheating going on. Even I am a winning player still I think very often there are weird things going on. And still I keep playing who is 2 blame than the sites or me! I guess me and probably you should think 2!
------------ How to stop the riggedness is to stop play online poker. That should teach them a lesson
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Posted by Almonds: sit and go tables are definately rigged because they are all run on a time scale,faster they finish more money made for site, mtts no difference to poker site and cash has lot of set on set flush on flush etc. to make more rake for site. I went to high coart in states and the poker sites won and also got to block most of the case being released to public.FACT
You don't even know how to spell the word "COURT". FACT!
Seriously, as per my last post. Put up evidence (10K + hands demonstrating statistical anomalies) or STFU
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My holdem manager say ipoker is rigged.I compare other site ipoker have unreal results...My best profitable cards here non suited conector (i do not play them) My best unprofitable cards AA.
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Posted by JohnyT: My holdem manager say ipoker is rigged.I compare other site ipoker have unreal results...My best profitable cards here non suited conector (i do not play them) My best unprofitable cards AA.
show dont tell
seriously, get some web space, upload 10K + HH to show us what you on about. or stfu
Is running -EV not a good assumption??????????????? And of course I have to agree with jessthehuman the bigger the sample the more corrections you see along the way.
------------ Oh and where their are players that run really good you have to have players wich run bad.
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Posted by dianakyra: Is running -EV not a good assumption??????????????? And of course I have to agree with jessthehuman the bigger the sample the more corrections you see along the way.
------------ Oh and where their are players that run really good you have to have players wich run bad.
Yeah you're right.Maybe it's not rigged.BUT FOR ME IT"S RIGGED
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LOL @ stojaca what makes that rigged? think about it, who benafits here....anouther player!..so the site is risking all at nl2 to help a player out...LOL....(btw you missed the A high flush for super rigged) Heres mr rigged screen shoot...Just look..I have an A on the outher table...FCKN rigged.
Yes, it is Ipoker. Same s**t (like this one) happens at FT, Party poker or pokerstars. They all are rigged, that is the fact.
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Posted by B1gfoot: LOL @ stojaca what makes that rigged? think about it, who benafits here....anouther player!..so the site is risking all at nl2 to help a player out...LOL....(btw you missed the A high flush for super rigged) Heres mr rigged screen shoot...Just look..I have an A on the outher table...FCKN rigged.
Poker room benefits here because 3 players go all-in, so the rake is much bigger for house.
PS. Do you know what is the odds that 2 players could have str8 flush in same suit in a single hand?
Tell me, in your expirience, how often you have str8 flush in your hand? How often you are beaten with str8 flush in your hand?
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LOL, the site makes about .30 here, you think they care about that. Yer odds are slim, but it will happen, it has to happen as the odds are there, every possable hand that can be played will at some stage be played. Iv seen sr8 flush to str8 flus, but dont know how many times, not going to check either. Its 4%/2%
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Rigged? Not generally. But anyone who plays live on a regular basis and then plays on tilt or stars knows that there is one difference late in tourneys; Small stax double all the time in live situations, but post bubble and late in MTT's, the online format features Big stacks getting artificial odds over smaller stax... The other thing that should be noted; RNG's are possible, but u dont see em in online poker as often as you should...There are patterns that emerge which is why math/analytical minded folks with above average recall are sponsored red pros all over the internet but not always the best live game players, since they lack the pyschology and people skills to make consistent reads...
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Posted by SonFelix:
Posted by wias: yesterday i have AA all-in the opponent has KK the flop was TK862
Online poker must be rigged if there comes that kinda flops
OK, well that is not a logical reaction, but I understand how frustrating it can be
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Posted by stojaca: @ jessthehuman
What do you think about this "bad beat"? (look atached image)
straight flush 7-J lose to straight flush 9-K....
Coincidence, variance, s**t happens .... Dont be naive, this is RIGGED like hell.
THATS a COOLER TO BE SURE, AT LEAST THE 2 STR8 flushes are not going anywhere, but math and sample size will produce those results...just getting a str8 flush in 5 card draw, for example, by the end of the first n only draw is 1 in 72,193.33 with 36 possible combos. too bad u guys were not at a badbeat jackpot table, bc then u would be in a different forum singing a less pathetic tune.
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it's not rigged, if you play some unknown pokersite it might be rigged. But honestly i don't think the major pokersites are rigged at all, when you think "this is rigged", rather think "this is varience". If you think online poker is rigged you're playing with a wrong mindset and i recommend reading "the poker mindset"
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Posted by B1gfoot: LOL, the site makes about .30 here, you think they care about that. Yer odds are slim, but it will happen, it has to happen as the odds are there, every possable hand that can be played will at some stage be played. Iv seen sr8 flush to str8 flus, but dont know how many times, not going to check either. Its 4%/2%
LOL. They do care, because 65% of all online players are playing micro and low stakes tables. Only 10% are high stakes players. Exept for big rooms (FT, Stars, Party) in every other rooms (Ipoker), there is not much action on high stakes tables so house get no rake from "big" players.
It might surprise you, but online rooms cares a lot about rake they get at low level tables. Low level tables are most active tables, with most players, so they care about rake.
As for the mentioned hand, you have your opinion, I respect that.
Imo, this hand is fixed and the beaten guy must feel like biggest donk on Earth. It is not his fault, it is not his opponent fault, poker room donked him. Why room do that? Because online poker is rigged.
"Online poker's rigged!", "No it's not!", "Yes it is!", "No it's not!" Repeat ad infinitum
I think the truth of the matter is anything that CAN happen in poker WILL happen online due to the MILLIONS of hands played daily. If there's a chance of it happening, no matter how slim that chance is, then it will happen, somewhere, sometime.
Don't get me wrong, I've suffered countless bad beats and seen some near on impossible stuff happen (crazy runner runners, Quads Vs bigger Quads etc) and that frustrates the hell out of me (if I'm on the receiving end) but I try not to let it get to me and definitely don't try and blame whatever poker site I was playing on.
A few months ago: shortstacked in mtt, pushed all in with A A called by 5 5 Flop: A 3 4 Turn: A River 2
SICK!
Nobody is to blame for that (apart from me for allowing myself to get shortstacked eh)... Maybe I should have whined and bitched all over the internet and got angry and blamed FT though?
To those who are certain that everything's rigged and all poker sites are out to get them, how about stopping playing online? Go play live for a while and you'll see that you'll still get those beats, just not as frequently because you're not playing the same volume of hands (and there's not the same volume of hands being played simultaneously)
.... Dont be naive, this is RIGGED like hell.
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