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Here is a hand I just played on Full Tilt that might be interesting for discussion.
Full Tilt Poker Game #23311422468: Table Kofi - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:00:57 ET - 2010/08/23
Seat 1: SnakesOnaPLAIN ($12.06)
Seat 2: newfg00 ($6.35)
Seat 3: ElectricSixx ($19)
Seat 4: igryla1 ($10.80)
Seat 5: Denver2004 ($9.83)
Seat 6: Pifon ($4.21)
Seat 7: kpaxa ($4.38)
Seat 8: Hero ($11.13)
Seat 9: IloveBeckyT ($8.47)
IloveBeckyT posts the small blind of $0.05
SnakesOnaPLAIN posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qh Qc]
newfg00 folds
ElectricSixx raises to $0.40
igryla1 folds
Denver2004 folds
Pifon folds
kpaxa folds
Hero raises to $1.20
IloveBeckyT folds
SnakesOnaPLAIN folds
ElectricSixx has 15 seconds left to act
ElectricSixx calls $0.80
*** FLOP *** [Ks 3h Ts]
ElectricSixx checks

We don't have much information on the opponent, except that he is Russian like me Smile. Before this he played rather reasonably. He is probably a solid player or a TAG. That's all we know.

What will be your next move, if you were me? To make this discussion more interesting, please, explain your decisions and suggest bet amounts.

I will post the continuation of the hand in the morning when I get some answers in this thread.

     
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I would make continue bet of 2/3 of the pot and see if where you stand.

     
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Posted by DansihAk47:
I would make continue bet of 2/3 of the pot and see if where you stand.



i agree..... as there is a flush draw out also a better kicker if there holding KK

     
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Bet $1.75 and you'll find out where you are very quickly. If he calls then rather just give it up on the turn. Rather a bad fold than a bad call is the best motto to play by

     
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Bet something like $1.50 to $2, representing a strong king. If we get raised it is time to lay down our hand. If he just calls, try to come to the showdown.

     
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Posted by DansihAk47:
I would make continue bet of 2/3 of the pot and see if where you stand.


In my opinion this is the best move you can do to understand where he is.....or if you feel he is a TAG you can bet half pot to save some money if he will reraise you

     
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I think i make c-bet between 1/2 or 2/3 of the pot. If he a TAG and havent got anything, he will fold.

     
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Well he raises out EP so you expect PP 8+ or AK AQ (going on he is TAG) for him to just call your re-raise puts him IMO on slightl lesser hand so dropping AA KK (but still possable), I would expect you to be holding AA KK QQ AK AQ posably JJ, now for the flop you have the K to scare you and draws, now if he is sat with KK he wants you to donk the money to him, if AK then he is taking a risk of letting a flush or str8 drop, so ill take him off AK (but could still hold AA KK) either way he is risking the hand getting worse in any case.(unless expecting you to c-bet wich is more than likely)
You should c-bet and if he has a hand he should re-raise, if drawing he might call....then after that who knows would have to see the turn and results of the c-bet.

     
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Posted by wias:
I think i make c-bet between 1/2 or 2/3 of the pot. If he a TAG and havent got anything, he will fold.

Same to me

     
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OK. All of you suggested continuation bet but I checked behind.
I can explain my reasoning. I put him on a PP 10+ or AK. I ruled out AQ (suggested by Bigfoot). I thought that this guy being resonable wouldn't call my reraise preflop. Also AA didn't seem very likely. In this case any opponent on micro-limits tries to get you all-in preflop. So I was afraid of AK or KK most of all therefore decided to see turn for free.

OK. Let's see the continuation of the hand.

Full Tilt Poker Game #23311422468: Table Kofi - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:00:57 ET - 2010/08/23
Seat 1: SnakesOnaPLAIN ($12.06)
Seat 2: newfg00 ($6.35)
Seat 3: ElectricSixx ($19)
Seat 4: igryla1 ($10.80)
Seat 5: Denver2004 ($9.83)
Seat 6: Pifon ($4.21)
Seat 7: kpaxa ($4.38)
Seat 8: Hero ($11.13)
Seat 9: IloveBeckyT ($8.47)
IloveBeckyT posts the small blind of $0.05
SnakesOnaPLAIN posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qh Qc]
newfg00 folds
ElectricSixx raises to $0.40
igryla1 folds
Denver2004 folds
Pifon folds
kpaxa folds
Hero raises to $1.20
IloveBeckyT folds
SnakesOnaPLAIN folds
ElectricSixx has 15 seconds left to act
ElectricSixx calls $0.80
*** FLOP *** [Ks 3h Ts]
ElectricSixx checks
Hero checks
*** TURN *** [Ks 3h Ts] Jack of spades
ElectricSixx bets $1.40
Hero?

1) What do you think of my check after the flop?
2) What will be your next move, if you were me? To make this discussion more interesting, please, explain your decisions and suggest bet amounts.

I will post the continuation of the hand later when I get some answers to this post.




     
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If you check the flop, putting him on the range you mentioned, you have to fold now. There is not much left that your hand can beat now.

     
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Posted by shokaku:
If you check the flop, putting him on the range you mentioned, you have to fold now. There is not much left that your hand can beat now.

But I have an open-ended straight draw now. I rule out that he made flush because we put him on a pair or AK and Ks is already on the board. But these three spades on board give me a chance to represent flush. No?

     
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No.

Being the preflop aggressor and hitting a flushdraw on the flop you would have bet that flop.

With the Q Spade you may do this. But without it your opponent has to fold a lot of better hands to make that move work.

     
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This is the problem with not betting post flop, you have handed controll over to him and the board has just got worse.
I agree with shokaku, unless you have notes then you have to belive he has you beat here, you managed to get no inf from the flop so now you have to fold.

     
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Agree to both posters above. However, I called. At that moment I realized that from mathematics standpoint I don't have proper odds to call here. But the problem with microlimits is that 1.40 seems a small enough price to chase an OESD. So I made a call. Let us see the continuation of the hand.

Full Tilt Poker Game #23311422468: Table Kofi - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:00:57 ET - 2010/08/23
Seat 1: SnakesOnaPLAIN ($12.06)
Seat 2: newfg00 ($6.35)
Seat 3: ElectricSixx ($19)
Seat 4: igryla1 ($10.80)
Seat 5: Denver2004 ($9.83)
Seat 6: Pifon ($4.21)
Seat 7: kpaxa ($4.38)
Seat 8: Hero ($11.13)
Seat 9: IloveBeckyT ($8.47)
IloveBeckyT posts the small blind of $0.05
SnakesOnaPLAIN posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qh Qc]
newfg00 folds
ElectricSixx raises to $0.40
igryla1 folds
Denver2004 folds
Pifon folds
kpaxa folds
Hero raises to $1.20
IloveBeckyT folds
SnakesOnaPLAIN folds
ElectricSixx has 15 seconds left to act
ElectricSixx calls $0.80
*** FLOP *** [Ks 3h Ts]
ElectricSixx checks
Hero checks
*** TURN *** [Ks 3h Ts] Jack of spades
ElectricSixx bets $1.40
Hero calls $1.40
*** RIVER *** [Ks 3h Ts Js] Queen of spades
ElectricSixx checks
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero ???

Ok. Let's disregard that I played bad after the flop. Now after the river arrived the hand becomes really weird.
What will be your next move, if you were me? To make this discussion more interesting, please, explain your decisions and suggest bet amounts.

I will post the outcome of the hand later when I get some answers to this post.



     
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LOL.terribly played.A C-Bet on the flop is a must so why didn't you do it?
Anyway, I bet bet your opponent made a str8 on the river, he went all in and you called.LMAO.S**t happens.Worse mistake was that you didn't bet postflop.You have time to get better and let's hope in the future you will have more luck. Big Smile

     
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Posted by Supererou:
I bet bet your opponent made a str8 on the river, he went all in and you called.

Read the hand more thoroughly. Opponent checked the river.

     
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Villian is scare of royal or str8 flush so you would expect a check, the Qs is the worst card you could river, so you should just check here, as you have no info a bluff would be crazy.
I dont belive he made royal or str8 flush, but with all the hands that beat you hear you would only likely to win the hand with a bluff. Id guess he made str8 or waak flush...
So my move here easy check, then shake my head Smile
I guess the good thing that can come of this is you will only spend what you should have on this hand, providing you check.

Edited by B1gfoot (24 August 2010 @ 20:29 GMT)


     
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Yeah, i agree with all former replys. C-BET! If u play it that passive, you just can make a bad quess of your opponents hand. Maybe your next post is that enemy here had Only Asx? But still tho, terribly played. Just let it gooooo....

     
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Posted by schmoyster:
Here is a hand I just played on Full Tilt that might be interesting for discussion.
Full Tilt Poker Game #23311422468: Table Kofi - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:00:57 ET - 2010/08/23
Seat 1: SnakesOnaPLAIN ($12.06)
Seat 2: newfg00 ($6.35)
Seat 3: ElectricSixx ($19)
Seat 4: igryla1 ($10.80)
Seat 5: Denver2004 ($9.83)
Seat 6: Pifon ($4.21)
Seat 7: kpaxa ($4.38)
Seat 8: Hero ($11.13)
Seat 9: IloveBeckyT ($8.47)
IloveBeckyT posts the small blind of $0.05
SnakesOnaPLAIN posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qh Qc]
newfg00 folds
ElectricSixx raises to $0.40
igryla1 folds
Denver2004 folds
Pifon folds
kpaxa folds
Hero raises to $1.20
IloveBeckyT folds
SnakesOnaPLAIN folds
ElectricSixx has 15 seconds left to act
ElectricSixx calls $0.80
*** FLOP *** [Ks 3h Ts]
ElectricSixx checks

We don't have much information on the opponent, except that he is Russian like me Smile. Before this he played rather reasonably. He is probably a solid player or a TAG. That's all we know.

What will be your next move, if you were me? To make this discussion more interesting, please, explain your decisions and suggest bet amounts.

I will post the continuation of the hand in the morning when I get some answers in this thread.

it would have been easier if you posted it in graphics..

     
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