let me just say firstly this has nothing to do with bankrollmob.......... but with another affiliate i signed up to many years ago...........
for the past 3 weeks i havnt been getting my rake at Full tilt, i was getting it every friday un till now so email my affiliate with this.........
I signed to your site many years ago and have received my rake back every friday of you, untill NOW I play on your Full tilt nearly everyday but for the last 17 days i have not recived any rake back at all, the last day was 13th of august on the friday its now the 30th
i was expecting some rake this friday because i didnt get any last friday and i still didnt recevie any again this friday, ive contact full tilt and told them about this problem too, as your the one who give me the rake into my account through a transaction i only play at FULL TILT cause of the good deal through rake back and through your site but sorry if im not getting my rake il go else where,
i hope you can sort out this problem out soon.........
i sent a email to Full tilt as well, today ive got replys from both of them......... heres what they both have to say
Full Tilt email..
Thank you for your response. Full Tilt Poker does facilitate the rakeback payments on behalf of some affiliates. Please note that the rakeback agreement is still between players and their affiliates and therefore we do not have access to any information regarding your personal rakeback account. Please contact your affiliate directly for more information. We're sorry we were unable to assist you. Regards, Juha Full Tilt Poker Support
ok then so it between me and my affiliate, cause there the ones who transfer the money to my account every friday (well use to not full tilt)
so the problem is my affiliate heres there email they sent to me,
Thank you for your message.
Also, please note that *cunts******.com(not there real name) does not have access to the data that is being used to calculate rakeback amounts as for data protection reasons, this data remains solely with the poker site.
However, you can check whether you received the correct amount of rakeback by using the following formula: (ourcuntsPoints / 2 - Bonuses - Player Added - Fees - Fraud - Used Points) * 0.27
Bonus: These are all bonuses given such as deposit or reload bonuses. Player Added: If you play in a guarantee tournament that doesn't meet the guarantee, Full Tilt Poker divides the amount of the overlay by the number of players in the tournament - the same is true for freerolls. Fees: Full Tilt Poker shares the cost incurred by payment processors for depositing or withdrawing on the site with its affiliates. Fraud: Any charge backs from credit cards will be deducted from rake. Used Points: Every time you use Full Tilt Points in the store or for tournaments, approximately $0.005 per point is deducted from your rake.
Unfortunately, if you cannot verify your rakeback with this formula, or if you still think that the rakeback amount is incorrect, there is currently no way for you to get assistance with regards to this matter as Full Tilt Poker has a policy of not answering individual players' rakeback questions.
You can still calculate your own rakeback with this formula and write it in an answer to this ticket, such as:
Period: Rakeback calculated: Rakeback received:
I will then forward this information to FullTilt, but all they can do is to state the negative revenue.
We have informed Full Tilt about this problem and hope that a solution can be found.
Kind regards, Ivann
so what the heck i can calculate my rake im not getting any my affiliate is robbing me, ive not withdrawn any money of use my full tilt points in the store or played freerolls,
there say in the email which is a back up plan for them,,, Unfortunately, if you cannot verify your rakeback with this formula, or if you still think that the rakeback amount is incorrect, there is currently no way for you to get assistance with regards to this matter as Full Tilt Poker has a policy of not answering individual players' rakeback questions
so ive lost my rake f**k em im withdrawing my money from full tilt closing down my account and fooking off my affiliate am not playing playing there no more making them money through my rake,
so even if you get your rake and its wrong theres nothing you can do, well am not getting anyrake and there nothing i can do either...... is there
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That sucks
Well thats why i allways try to have personal contact at my rakeback affliate (so i never do the biggy's like raketherake ect) and also try to have a personal manager at the site i am playing. Some sites can offer instant VIP manager when signing up, at PKR my VIP manager allways solved problems for me in seconds while support take days or weeks.
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Good post dozn. That's what is happening to me also... used to get FTP rakeback from a site every Friday but it's about two months now that it's gone... although I'm not playing much on FTP, there was a small amount from rakeback in my account every Friday... I haven't searched it properly and that's my fault, maybe I should send 'em an email too
Posted by ILI_002: Good post dozn. That's what is happening to me also... used to get FTP rakeback from a site every Friday but it's about two months now that it's gone... although I'm not playing much on FTP, there was a small amount from rakeback in my account every Friday... I haven't searched it properly and that's my fault, maybe I should send 'em an email too
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cheers m8 for the up,
well i use to play at vc poker ipoker network was building my way up the V.I.P ladder getting loads of point as i play omaha high and low but they change the system of getting points and this effected my money each month swap points for cash, so i went back to full tilt cause i had rake back there i can get in some big pot at full tilt playing omaha h/l and all this rake adds up... and now for some reason am not getting any, and there nothing i can do about it,
even if they pay me my rake and its wrong like stated above in there email............ you cannot verify your rakeback with this formula, or if you still think that the rakeback amount is incorrect, there is currently no way for you to get assistance with regards to this matter as Full Tilt Poker has a policy of not answering individual players' rakeback questions
load of crap thats all i can say at the moment, there blaming full tilt and full tilt are saying it my affiliate fault......
my affiliate can rob people blind and you canrt question that your rake is wrong even thou i havnt receveid it any............
i feel let down but how can a big site like Full Tilt let this happen to there players, in the end i might not bother with poker cause as i just got settled to Full tilt , as the other site (vc poker) change for the worst of my game and now this one,,,, well my affiliate has screw me over,not full tilt ,but yet full tilt can let this happen i really like full tilt but why should i play there now after this has happend to me.....
other players get there rake so why shouldnt i.. am entitled to it.......
now i have to find another poker site change my game get use to the players tactics, as all sites players play are different IMO, i just carnt be arsed to adjust to another site yet find another 1, fooking retards both of them...
sorry for the bad language but im really pissed off right now....................
About your problem too ILI_002 i think you should send them a email too, if you havnt been receveing as well, but dont get your hopes up you might end up like me..... but i wish you good luck in getting your rake back, maybe there rake system is differen than Full Tilts,,, cause Full Tilt dont give a s**t....
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That really sucks but you cannot blame FT for that because they are not the rakeback providers. My advice would be to email suppoer at FT and see if you can sign up with a new account through a new rakeback provider since this one has screwed you over. I would think they would have no problem letting you do that since they value their customers. Just an idea.
Posted by jhutch42084: That really sucks but you cannot blame FT for that because they are not the rakeback providers. My advice would be to email suppoer at FT and see if you can sign up with a new account through a new rakeback provider since this one has screwed you over. I would think they would have no problem letting you do that since they value their customers. Just an idea.
Full Tilt can be a little to blame as they allow them to be a affiliate for players who come to there site,full tilt give them my rake back money and my affiliate pay me my 27% i dont know how much my affiliate get in profit from my rake but i guess its a good percent.........
they should check who they let there affiliates be for players and make sure they keep there promise of giving them there rake back cause all what this is doing is giving full tilt a bad name,
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lol they just start to loose they position onthe poker players and really if the same way will go in future this site really be not sopopular like these days are really bad decisions was there from them
dozn01, In fact there is nothing new about it. Full Tilt has their own formula of calculating rakeback. They deduct bonus amounts, guaranteed tournaments overlays, and some other things from your rakeback earnings. So, there is quite easy to acquire negative rakeback on FT. It is all written in their rakeback FAQ section http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com/rakeback-faq-t8901... The problem with us all (including me) is that we never bother to read important info but just hurry to jump at the table.
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Posted by schmoyster: dozn01, In fact there is nothing new about it. Full Tilt has their own formula of calculating rakeback. They deduct bonus amounts, guaranteed tournaments overlays, and some other things from your rakeback earnings. So, there is quite easy to acquire negative rakeback on FT. It is all written in their rakeback FAQ section http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com/rakeback-faq-t8901... The problem with us all (including me) is that we never bother to read important info but just hurry to jump at the table.
Now THAT is an interesting post!
I was trying to figure out myself how dozn could have a negative rakeback amount. Thanks for clearing that up. I guess there is a lot more to watch out for when making bonus/rakeback deals and such...
if you have seen the pots what i have been in the last month playing omaha h/l you would think how the heck my rake is at negative............ i dont play freeroll there cause i know this can effect my rake looks like i have to read more into this thanks for the info schmoyster
up,
. I want to know too hows it possible to have negative RB 
