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  25-Sep-10, 18:18   #1
i want to improve my game 0 
mrnugger 

Joined: Feb '08
Location: Belgium
Age: 60 (M)
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i am working on improving my game , in the past i was playing most of the times because i just liked the game but i lost because i was just not good enough , since few months i am playing better and better not because of my bankroll management but because i changed my mentality at the tables and i also started to play more and more sit&go single tables with different buy-in and espacially the KO at pokerstars .
now i would like to start with multi table sit&go (KO), 90 people to increase my game again before i go to the real MTT .
do you think it's a good idea or do i just need to keep on playing the single sit&gos where i start to become reasonable good at .

     
  25-Sep-10, 18:53   #2
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DaMessiah666 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Spain
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Posted by mrnugger:
do you think it's a good idea or do i just need to keep on playing the single sit&gos where i start to become reasonable good at .

In my humble opinion, i think the two options you are exposing here are different ways to play. You mustn't be a very good 10-9 players s'n'g to begin playing mtt (45-90). In my case, you have to play where you feel more comfortable or what it worths. For example, people who have not enough time to play prefer single table

     
  25-Sep-10, 19:08   #3
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 6704
If you want to play MTTs single table SnGs are only good to improve your final table game. So switch to the multi table SnGs if you want to improve your tourney play.

But if you are doing well at the SnGs, why switch games?

     
  25-Sep-10, 19:40   #4
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mrnugger 

Joined: Feb '08
Location: Belgium
Age: 60 (M)
Posts: 751
Posted by shokaku:
If you want to play MTTs single table SnGs are only good to improve your final table game. So switch to the multi table SnGs if you want to improve your tourney play.

But if you are doing well at the SnGs, why switch games?


the reason that i would like to switch is that i want to become a better player in general , that's also the reason why i switch my buy-in range from 1.10$ to 13.50 at this moment and in future i would like to go up from 6.75 $ to 27 $ .
I also have find out that the higher the buy-in is the tougher the competition is but i guess that this is normal and i do feel more comfortable with a higher buy-in but i have a family that need to be taken care of also so i really need to improve my game firstly before i can go to the low - middle stakes .


     
  25-Sep-10, 20:58   #5
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Kristan 

Joined: Feb '10
Location: Finland
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 1248
Posted by mrnugger:
Posted by shokaku:
If you want to play MTTs single table SnGs are only good to improve your final table game. So switch to the multi table SnGs if you want to improve your tourney play.

But if you are doing well at the SnGs, why switch games?


the reason that i would like to switch is that i want to become a better player in general , that's also the reason why i switch my buy-in range from 1.10$ to 13.50 at this moment and in future i would like to go up from 6.75 $ to 27 $ .
I also have find out that the higher the buy-in is the tougher the competition is but i guess that this is normal and i do feel more comfortable with a higher buy-in but i have a family that need to be taken care of also so i really need to improve my game firstly before i can go to the low - middle stakes .

from 6.75 to 27$? Why so swingy?
And I would not say there is a huge difference between 6.75 and 27$ players. Thats not even close to "higher buy in", esp if playing in stars or fulltilt.

I would suggest, skip the mtt and stt - Go Big - Cashgames Blink Thumbs Up

     
  25-Sep-10, 22:33   #6
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mrnugger 

Joined: Feb '08
Location: Belgium
Age: 60 (M)
Posts: 751
Posted by Kristan:
Posted by mrnugger:
Posted by shokaku:
If you want to play MTTs single table SnGs are only good to improve your final table game. So switch to the multi table SnGs if you want to improve your tourney play.

But if you are doing well at the SnGs, why switch games?


the reason that i would like to switch is that i want to become a better player in general , that's also the reason why i switch my buy-in range from 1.10$ to 13.50 at this moment and in future i would like to go up from 6.75 $ to 27 $ .
I also have find out that the higher the buy-in is the tougher the competition is but i guess that this is normal and i do feel more comfortable with a higher buy-in but i have a family that need to be taken care of also so i really need to improve my game firstly before i can go to the low - middle stakes .

from 6.75 to 27$? Why so swingy?
And I would not say there is a huge difference between 6.75 and 27$ players. Thats not even close to "higher buy in", esp if playing in stars or fulltilt.

I would suggest, skip the mtt and stt - Go Big - Cashgames Blink Thumbs Up


At cash games i don't feel comfortable at all ... it's surely not my game .
I just would lose more than i could handle because i can't handle the pressure of a cash game .
what i did mean with from 6.75$ to 27$ is that i would like to play 6.75 $ as well as 27 $ and inbetween as i do now with the 1.10 $ up to 13.50 $ and inbetween .



     
  25-Sep-10, 23:57   #7
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IslandJack 

Joined: Oct '09
Location: Belgium
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 2851
I get the impression we`re similar players.

I don`t play cash because the pressure is constant, the swings can be huge, and I don`t get any personal satisfaction from it.
So absolutely no reason to play cash for me. (sometimes Rush for the kick, but EXTREMELY swingy (variance). you need to enjoy what you play or you will lose.

Sng`s STT are an art in themselves, and I enjoy playing them, and pretty well so far, but never went beyond $10. From $6 up, the Poker is better and fun to play.
I could really make some cash with those, but i get bored grinding SnG`s, it gets repetitive.
Concentrating on 1 decent SnG, I usually cash, and I play a lower limit one just to relieve the dull moments in between.
Multi tabling decent Sng`s are not profitable for me, because then you need to play "statistically", your ROI goes way down, and it just takes the fun out of it for me, so I get BORED.

I love Tourneys, but there`s the catch...no guarantees. you can get pretty frustrated playing very decent Poker in the course of a long Tourney.
I really prefer the "deepstack" or longer blind times, because it`s poker at it`s finest IMO.
Cutting short the blind times increase the "luck" factor greatly.

Here`s my view on the whole thing:

STT SnG`s are great for your final table play.
MTT SnG`s resemble play in the "bubble", very agressive for a longer period of time.
I`ve only played a few of those and should/will play more, because it`s in the bubble I usually screw up. Big Smile

I`ve only recently started playing "deepstack" and I love it, it`s decent, intelligent Poker with no blind clock bearing down on you.
My weakness is always in the bubble, and I should just play more MTT SnG`s to improve the agressive bubble play.

It all takes time and a lot of experience to get all those elements together to play Tourneys profitably, I believe.

You just want to make cash without too much variance, play the lower limit SnG`s on FT, the Poker is not totally donkish there at the lowest levels, because on the donk sites at those limits (most of them), it ruins your Poker and the possibility of consistent profit is limited because donk are donks and never fold. There`s always 1 in there hitting that 1 card for trips or an improbable straight or flush. Frustrating.
On FT at $1 to $ 5 dollars they`re pretty easy to beat Multi-tabling.

I should follow my own advice because I switch too much between games and buy-ins, and that just screws you up, big time.

I closed down all of my sites last week, except FT and Party, and I keep Pokerstars for once in a while special games.
From now on I`ll be playing only decent Sng`s, Shootouts on Party (I made a thread on that a few weeks back), and deepstack or double stack Tournaments.
I`m going to force myself to play more MTT Sng`s like 45, 90 or 180 runners.

When I drop out of the money too much, I`ll grind a few lower limit SnG`s (4-tabling), to keep my bankroll from going down instead of up.

In the meantime I hope to improve and hopefully cash higher in tournaments.

That`s my take on the whole thing if you want to get good at Tourneys, without losing your Bankroll if luck hits you badly.

Hope that helps a bit. Blink

     
  26-Sep-10, 09:35   #8
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wiebepoker 
Joined: Sep '09
Location: Netherlands
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 34
practice makes perfect
so i would say keep on going and always keep in mind ur BR managment
for big mtt u need lots and lots patience sng is much faster
i prever mtt do Blink

     
  26-Sep-10, 10:42   #9
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karstenkloss 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Serbia
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 116
I was playing the same like you, but i changed completly to cash-game. Mtts are a very swingy stuff, i had once a run of more than 20 Mtts without a single cash. Cash-game is for me quite constant, when you play enough volume.

     
  26-Sep-10, 11:13   #10
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B1gfoot 

Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (M)
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I think you need to chose what it is you want or like to play, SnGs are diffrent to DoNs MTTs, KOs and a world diffrent to cash games. Then you need to think about game structure as you play needs to adapt to its style, IE deep stack, short stack, re-buy, addons, value of chips tc etc.
But in any of them the first thing to do is find your weak spot..keep busting eairly? then your probbably over playing hannds...end up getting blinded? then you need to open up more late stages etc.
So first off all what do you want to play?

     
  26-Sep-10, 14:03   #11
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mrnugger 

Joined: Feb '08
Location: Belgium
Age: 60 (M)
Posts: 751
Posted by B1gfoot:
I think you need to chose what it is you want or like to play, SnGs are diffrent to DoNs MTTs, KOs and a world diffrent to cash games. Then you need to think about game structure as you play needs to adapt to its style, IE deep stack, short stack, re-buy, addons, value of chips tc etc.
But in any of them the first thing to do is find your weak spot..keep busting eairly? then your probbably over playing hannds...end up getting blinded? then you need to open up more late stages etc.
So first off all what do you want to play?

my weakest spot in the past was the patience , when i did not get cards for some time i decited to play anyway and that was wrong , now i wait and observe more and it is a big difference .
I would like to play more oftend the general MTT's with around 1.000 - 1.500 players and no rebuy or just 2 rebuys and a add-on .
the past weeks i played some MTT's with middle finishes 78 % and middle late 14 % but this are the results of only 49 games played so it's difficult to tell already how i am doing .
I do have find out that one mistake or one bad beat makes a hugh difference in MTT espacially when your half away so i am more carefull at that stage but still something gos wrong when i am that far .


     
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