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California is about to vote on Prop 19 come Nov 2nd. If it passes California will become the first state to legalize marijuana. Do you thing marijuana should be legal? YES or NO and why? Sound off!!!
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The only way that marijuana can be considered 'harmful' is through the damage its legalization will do to societal productivity. Imagine if you could take a spliff break instead of a cigarette break at work! No one would ever get anything done!
I'm for legalization, but not government regulation. Kind of an oxymoron, I know, but think about what will happen....if the government controls who can grow and who can't, how much, under what conditions, and how much you'll pay, kiss all of your favorite strains goodbye, and say hello to amateur strains cultivated in a hurry, with the bottom line being profit margins and tax writeoffs, not quality. It's a complicated issue, but to summarize, yes, I'd love to walk past a cop with an ounce of heddies in my hand and a smile on my face.
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Needs a poll for sure.
Id say yes, reasons being it would calm down many weekend fighters, it would bring in extra money for govenment, it should prevent pushers form getting pot users on to harder drugs. There are plenty more harmfull drugs out there that people can get hold of with out fear of the law. We would also see the police doing thier jobs by not having to waste time on pot users,crime rates would lower. I wounder why it is against the law to be honest, I know it was orgianally made illigal due to the paper companies fear of hemp, and money spoke a lot back then, but now we dont want to cut trees..so. Outher good effects is that people wont be buying contaminatid pot if regulated right. Its real hard to see the ill efects of making it legal. And before people start saying all drugs are bad...just think a little...know what a drug is. BTW im a no smoker.
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If alcohol was discovered today it would be a class B drug or higher. All recreational drugs cause problems of both the social and the health kind. But I am pro choice. I am also of the opinion that most vices are ok when controlled. That includes gambling.
There is an argument that pot can lead to stronger stuff but this is due simply to the fact that dealers who supply weed are quick to supply other drugs when they are "out of pot". It's a sneaky way of getting people hooked on stronger drugs.
But if the gov regulate the drug, if they tax it, if they make people aware of the dangers the problems caused by pot will be on the whole much less. Legalising it will not make more people smoke but it will make things safer for those who do.
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Posted by Davoodoo:
Absolutely not ... people today seem to have lost common sense totally, why make it worse with using harmfull drugs ?
u think if they where to vote on alcohol being legalised now knowing what they do that they would vote yes,seen too many people getting murdered,slashed,etc all down to booze,hospitals full every week of ppl mad with booze,do u see s1 having a smoke and wanting to go out and fight the world,no,it doesnt happen and then u smoke fags which cause cancer and u could just smoke weed and it prob not as bad as fags with all the chemicals in them and lastly,u go to amsterdam and its all top quality weed in cafes so i disagree about the strains getting weaker for1,u know where my votes going,i agree totally with awood88!go on the ganja,lol!
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Posted by FlopMeARoyal: The only way that marijuana can be considered 'harmful' is through the damage its legalization will do to societal productivity. Imagine if you could take a spliff break instead of a cigarette break at work! No one would ever get anything done!
I'm for legalization, but not government regulation. Kind of an oxymoron, I know, but think about what will happen....if the government controls who can grow and who can't, how much, under what conditions, and how much you'll pay, kiss all of your favorite strains goodbye, and say hello to amateur strains cultivated in a hurry, with the bottom line being profit margins and tax writeoffs, not quality. It's a complicated issue, but to summarize, yes, I'd love to walk past a cop with an ounce of heddies in my hand and a smile on my face.
mate,u wouldnt get a spliff break at work or ud get sacked,it be like going to the pub on ur break at work,do u do that?prob not so no need to worry about that and if they where to legalise it,ur strains would be stronger,not weaker,thats the point,u know what ur getting,it would be the same as amsterdam,great top quality weed and also ur solid weed like temple ball,soap bar and rocky,thats what u would be getting but it will be pricey as the goverment will take alot through tax!they are already giving it to oaps for certain things in england like ms,athritis,etc as a spray and they ppl that shake all time,cant rmbr the name but u know what i mean,they get2use it 2help them relax and it works,thats why u have grannys growing it themselves,u know where my votes going!
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Posted by B1gfoot: Needs a poll for sure.
Id say yes, reasons being it would calm down many weekend fighters, it would bring in extra money for govenment, it should prevent pushers form getting pot users on to harder drugs. There are plenty more harmfull drugs out there that people can get hold of with out fear of the law. We would also see the police doing thier jobs by not having to waste time on pot users,crime rates would lower. I wounder why it is against the law to be honest, I know it was orgianally made illigal due to the paper companies fear of hemp, and money spoke a lot back then, but now we dont want to cut trees..so. Outher good effects is that people wont be buying contaminatid pot if regulated right. Its real hard to see the ill efects of making it legal. And before people start saying all drugs are bad...just think a little...know what a drug is. BTW im a no smoker.
I cannot agree more with this post! Everything said, well enough !
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i say yes
here in holland is marijana legal and if it`s legal to bay it in a special shop than know the youserthat he have always good stuf for a good prijs and the dealers have no bayers so the quit so the police have time for other things and a splif a day ceeps the docter away
A really, really old man once said to me: I give You all the Seed bearing plants on earth... (that has been a while I admit)
and I dont see why the government should have the right to take em away from me. Apart from the many people who are eagerly awaiting a legal possibility to use the best medicine available for them.
And for all of us just misusing it it is far less harmless then the legal drugs around...
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Posted by FlopMeARoyal: The only way that marijuana can be considered 'harmful' is through the damage its legalization will do to societal productivity. Imagine if you could take a spliff break instead of a cigarette break at work! No one would ever get anything done!
I'm for legalization, but not government regulation. Kind of an oxymoron, I know, but think about what will happen....if the government controls who can grow and who can't, how much, under what conditions, and how much you'll pay, kiss all of your favorite strains goodbye, and say hello to amateur strains cultivated in a hurry, with the bottom line being profit margins and tax writeoffs, not quality. It's a complicated issue, but to summarize, yes, I'd love to walk past a cop with an ounce of heddies in my hand and a smile on my face.
mate,u wouldnt get a spliff break at work or ud get sacked,it be like going to the pub on ur break at work,do u do that?prob not so no need to worry about that and if they where to legalise it,ur strains would be stronger,not weaker,thats the point,u know what ur getting,it would be the same as amsterdam,great top quality weed and also ur solid weed like temple ball,soap bar and rocky,thats what u would be getting but it will be pricey as the goverment will take alot through tax!they are already giving it to oaps for certain things in england like ms,athritis,etc as a spray and they ppl that shake all time,cant rmbr the name but u know what i mean,they get2use it 2help them relax and it works,thats why u have grannys growing it themselves,u know where my votes going! [/QUOTE]
Why yes, I take frequent trips to the local dive during my lunch break.
When Canada did this with medical marijuana, the weed they were growing came from the confiscated stashes of the former growers who were raided. It was grown in damp caves, the government had no idea which seeds/clones were good/preferred/growable, and they were under serious time constraints, all of which resulted in truly sub-par weed. When the final product was presented to people with medical exemption cards, many people refused to pay for it or simply returned it. This caused a $15 million hole in the middle of Canada's revolutionary new program, a debt which they tried to force on their customers, with negative results. Hopefully we learn from the mistakes of others, and hire established growers to keep the product consistent. If not, things could get out of hand in the US, just like Canada.
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I think marijuana should be legal or alcohol should be made illegal. To say alcohol is safer than marijuana makes me laugh. Either legalize marijuana---or outlaw alcohol. If alcohol was illegal---at least one could then make an argument that marijuana should not be legal. If alcohol is legal---then marijuana should be legal. Marijuana is much safer than alcohol and that is a fact. Alcohol makes people angry and makes them want to fight, makes them sick and throw up, and the list goes on and on. Marijuana make you a little forgetful and slows you down a bit and makes you hungry and makes you want to laugh and be peaceful. The proof is in the pudding.
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Posted by Sch0rsch: I think its not a good idea to legalize marijuana, because it is often a "beginner drug" and leadds to harder drugs whitch can be really harmful.
This is a common misconception. Lots of research has been done into this and it has never been proven that those who take softer drugs will tend to move on to harder stuff. However, most of those who take harder drugs started on so-called beginner drugs.
The reason for this is availability. Those who are inclined to take harder drugs get them from the dealers they already know and as mentioned in posts above dealers will push more harmful, more addictive and more expensive drugs on their clients so legalisation of pot would in effect decrease users of harder drugs.
By the way, I personally would never smoke marijuana. I have only two vices, alcohol and poker and I feel that is enough for me. I am in control of both and could give up either if I came into financial difficulty. I don't smoke cos I'd rather keep my money but have no problem with those who do. I have friends who smoke weed but it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Each to their own.
Illegal Marijana is very similar to prohibition in the 30's. By legalization and regulation, the dealers will be out of buisness and have to punt something else. Your supply would be consistant quality and as an added bonus, governments would have a potentially huge tax base to work with. Here in Canada, cigarrettes are 75% tax, so the revenues generated by pot would easily be in the billions.
I used to work as a Mental Health Addiction Nurse in Glasgow, Scotland and worked with Drug addicts and Alcoholics for 5 years. I have seen at first hand what Drugs do to people and their families but truly believe that a lot of this is down to the Dealers who are cutting their stuff with all sorts of s**t to make more money. I believe that marijuana should be legalisedand also believe (controversially) that all Drugs should be legalised and poeple should be given the right to make their own decision to take it or not.
Legaliisation and proper control of drugs is the way to go imo as this would put the dealers out of business and mean that the drugs would be a lot safer to use. People argue that it would lead to more drug addicts but I disagree. If Heroin was lagalised I would not rush out to buy some and most people would not either. It would be treated like alcohol and obviously illegal to smoke ay work or drive under the influence.
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Drugs and alcohol have one common thing : we all react different to the substances, the most of us can take it well and act normally but some people just cant handle it. For example, i wouldnt want to be sitting in a buss that is driven by a high driver that has to smoke to "calm his nerves", i would be very scared that the driver would suddenly start to hallucinate and drive from a cliff (of course i wouldnt want a drunk driver either, perhaps this was a bad example).
Dont you all remember when you started drinking ? In the beginning a couple of beers were enough but after a time you just had to drink more and more to get the same feeling, the same will go with drugs you need a bigger and bigger kick all the time and try heavier drugs.
I still havent heard one good reason why the drug(or any drug) should be legalized (and yes i have read the thread)... and please dont come with the reason it calms nerves LOL.
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no thanks to drugs, it makes you dumb. i can only agree for drugs if it is for medical use i think it could be good. if a doktor would descibe drugs for patient it is ok for me, but legalize for everybody NO THANKS.
I guess you're not a fan of this law and would like to read your reasons 
