An american with the alias "zeko1985" got tired of spending long hours in front of the computer and decided to program his very own poker robot. The poker robot was doing extremely well almost straight away and in 30 months the robot had won over $220,000 for him.
Many players who had played against zeko1985 suspected that something was going on and decided to contact the poker site in question. [...] Read more » American programmed own poker robot and won $220,00!
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zeko1985 confessing.
"This view or my story will not sit well with some people around here. I have recently been banned from fulltilt and all my funds confiscated. I had been botting on fulltilt for the past 2 and a half years. I carried out various measures to remain undedected but I prob got greedy lately, putting in too much volume. I was a little angry after fulltilt cut my rakeback with this new system they introduced.
Anyway, I put A LOT of time into created bots. I have successul bots on fulltilt and ipoker. I beleive that botting is a legit form of poker. Although I am not in control at the tables all the time, I have programmed the bot and am therefore responsible for its play. Its my mind dictating my bots actions, its my indepth poker knowlsedge, it takes a lot of skill to make winning bots. I should not be banned as its a form of poker. Not only this but I created a lot of rake for fulltilt and I am sure they knew about me long before they bothered banning me, in fact this is why I became slack with the hours I was putting in, I looked at it almost as a partnership." "Fulltilt did confiscate my BR, but I only kept my BR small as a precaution. I made regular withdrawels. I would estimate my botting winnings to be around 220k in the last 2 and a half years from ipoker and fulltilt. Rakeback plays a massive part in winning but because of my poker knowledge I can win without rakeback. I hope to soon get back and running on fulltilt from a diff acc and country so I am not that worried but am a little angry at fulltilt and I still have ipoker. I am a high volume partner and Botting should be allowed, its a form of poker at its purist. "
"I know fulltilt were aware of me for a long time before they removed me, I just dont know why the sudden move. I honestly felt we had a mutual unspoken agreament and I would be left alone as long as I didnt get too out of line. Then again I did push it a little too far, so maybe I only have myself to blame."
zeko1985 is only doing what the sites used to do but are no longer alloud, some of them love bots, it pays them well, but if im honest I think he is full of crap, dont think it ever happend if it did im sure he would stay low and carry on milking outher sites, no need to blow himself up FT would never like to admit they had a bot playing for over 2 1/2 years.
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I´m against... If all of us need to play hard to try raise some profit, this bitch need to work hard on poker too... Congratulations for his smart robot, but is not a goos think to the world of online poker. Ban to all that use robots..
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agree with bigfoot statements ... my first impression reading the articles has been zeko1985 intentions are to advertise his bots and make some money from selling them
PS: anyway if he can prove he is true ..... I will buy for sure
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I think maybe there should be a site where robots can play each other and humans who think they can beat them. It's not fair to use a bot and pretend it's you playing. Besides, when you sign up at a site you agree to abide by their rules and if they say no bots, then it should be no bots. It's essentially bad for poker if the sites become loaded with bots since it will be harder for players to make money and people won't wanna play there. If the sites lose money then that effects us. So I can't say I approve of zeko1985.
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a bot never gets tired, never missclicks, never times out, never makes a bad ass bluff, always has the exact odds, never is tilting, never loses patience.
I am sure most hobby players in the world would lose to a decent bot in the long run. At least in cash games. If that story is really true, then good night online poker.
I dont know how online poker rooms wanna prevent bots and what meassures they have, but if everyone for example could buy a fine working poker bot it would be the death of online poker.
If he really thinks using a bot isnt cheating then he is a fuc king retard. I canonly quote Ziigmund here "I hope you die"
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Posted by Sapoazul: I'm against... If all of us need to play hard to try raise some profit, this bitch need to work hard on poker too... Congratulations for his smart robot, but is not a goos think to the world of online poker. Ban to all that use robots..
amen brother... fortunately enough; he got caught...
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Posted by Davoodoo: Imagine all those times you have went on tilt after bad-beats and lost your whole roll ... a good pokerrobot would rape the lower stakes cg.
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I think it's unfair simply because as written above, everyone has to learn to deal with their emotional card playing in order to not TILT or abuse proper BRM.
However, I agree with the man on some points and maybe it's just because I program myself, but I'd love to see a site where bot's can play each other, I reckon that'd be fantastic. I'd certainly have a crack at making one.
I reckon that'd be so far more advanced than actually just playing that it's not funny.. All the maths etc that is behind the game, that just can't really be used by a human on the fly, could finally be put into action and everyones theories could be tested against each others.. It'd be a poker evolution.
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zeko is a fuckin wanker. When he not can play poker on this own he must not play he must banned from all sites for live. Bots players sucks i hate them.Every good real player took a lot of time to train his skill to play better poker and this idiots and others kill one of the greatest game with the s**t of playin bots aarrrggg i´m really angry about this
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thats ccool but not good to the game, have anyone played against him, what do you think about him. i would not think it isfun to play against a player like that, but good that fulltilt closed his account.
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Posted by watoba: zeko is a fuckin wanker. When he not can play poker on this own he must not play he must banned from all sites for live. Bots players sucks i hate them.Every good real player took a lot of time to train his skill to play better poker and this idiots and others kill one of the greatest game with the s**t of playin bots aarrrggg i'm really angry about this
I admit it's unfair, but if you think an unskilled player could program a successful poker bot, you're in fantasy land. The skill and knowledge (of programming AND poker) required to make a successful bot.. lol @ your response is all i can say.
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Posted by shokaku:
Posted by jessthehuman: I admit it's unfair, but if you think an unskilled player could program a successful poker bot, you're in fantasy land.
Even if it takes skill to cheat, it is still cheating. And the rooms have to take it serious, or the player base will erode.
Oh I'm not saying it isn't cheating. I completely agree. But I think that (as apposed to people who just use bots) people who program bots are very clever, most likely good at poker, programming and life in general. And it just bothers me that people don't seem to respect or appreciate the craft and genius that goes into them. TBH - most people probably aren't intelligent enough to actually appreciate something as well designed as a winning poker bot.
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@jessthehuman LOL when u read was zeko write you can understand my post "zeko : but because of my poker knowledge I can win without" Ok my english are not the best but i think he mean he got not the skill to play winning poker or if i wrong? But zeko is a big a*****e equal he got the skill to make a bot he fucked up many players all over the world When he got the skill to program a bot why he used it not for this own to train his personal poker skill and read a few books like a good fair poker player many players need years to playing good poker and have a lot work and time and to play better poker and the bot players destroy the fantastic game. As a pro poker player say i don´t know the name maybe it was doyle B. you learning poker in a few minutes but to understand the game you need a life.
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No, watoba, what he is saying is that he can win at poker without the bot. But he is still an ashole. If anything is going to kill online poker, it's bots. If it really is working he could sell it to any a-hole, and all of a sudden the net is overflowing with these things and all the fish are eaten...
Does anybody know what kind of game the bot played? I used to play some limit poker at Ipoker a maybe a year ago or more, and there was this guy always playing, ALWAYS, and never answering in the chat. Could have been the bot. But hten again, it could have been someone playing to make a living tired and of chatting.
