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Oh my God, I hate JJ!
Everytime I 3bet a JJ hand some donk call with K 3, Q 7 or A 2 nd hits A, K or Q.

It just happened again. My JJ losses against A 7.

Some advice here?


     
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I don't know if this is good advice. But when I get JJ in a fullring game, I usually play them like a middle pair, not a high pair. If the flop comes with one overcard, and I have only one or two opponents, I assume I have the best hand. If they disagree, I revaluate.

JJ is hard. I have learned to let it go much easier now, than when I started to play.

     
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Ok, I will learn to let JJ go instead of loosing it. But its hard Smile Looks really good at my hand. Two same cards saying win win win.... Tongue
Guess still best advice is not go on tilt... Big Smile

     
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JJ is a good starting hand, lots of people shy away from it, fold FTA LOL yer JJ is just that bad of a hand LOL, im raising mine, nothing stupid normall x3 or x4 dont over value, after flop play like a small pair, keep the pot low, only call small raises or re-raises.
Know your villans ranges, if you can place him/her on a hand you can make a bit more or save a bit more.
No over cards on the flop WOOOO great bet big, worst cases here is set or bigger pockets, ahhh what can you do, well you can have a good read, watch out for flat callers look at what they could be playing with (board texture)
Got it to HU, then great, but et ohh an over card....but dont worry make a bet see if he hit it or not, most of the time you will take the pot here.(c-bet half pot, give yourself a chance to get away)
All above is for cash games, if in a tourn things are a little diffrent depending on structure, ranking et etc, but mainly ill play them a bit harder, even all in eairly stages as there tends to be a lot of weak players around then and will stack off with much worse.
Next time you win with JJ, you owe me half the pot Smile

     
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Thanksfor good advice Bigfoot Smile I think at my stakes it wouldnt even be worth it to transfer half my pot to you.... Big Smile
But when Im getting real good and playing higheer stakes I will think about you everytime I win with your strategy at JJ Big Smile

     
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Posted by B1gfoot:
JJ is a good starting hand, lots of people shy away from it, fold FTA LOL yer JJ is just that bad of a hand LOL, im raising mine, nothing stupid normall x3 or x4 dont over value, after flop play like a small pair, keep the pot low, only call small raises or re-raises.
Know your villans ranges, if you can place him/her on a hand you can make a bit more or save a bit more.
No over cards on the flop WOOOO great bet big, worst cases here is set or bigger pockets, ahhh what can you do, well you can have a good read, watch out for flat callers look at what they could be playing with (board texture)
Got it to HU, then great, but et ohh an over card....but dont worry make a bet see if he hit it or not, most of the time you will take the pot here.(c-bet half pot, give yourself a chance to get away)
All above is for cash games, if in a tourn things are a little diffrent depending on structure, ranking et etc, but mainly ill play them a bit harder, even all in eairly stages as there tends to be a lot of weak players around then and will stack off with much worse.
Next time you win with JJ, you owe me half the pot Smile


Good post Big, Thumbs Up JJ is a good but not great starting pocket, and you have to listen to your poker instincts when your raise gets called, ace flops out and you're getting reraised. It is sweet though when Mr. AK flops an ace but a J gives you a set - ooooooooh - FIREWORKS BABY! Big Smile

     
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i agree good starting hand but i wouldn be 100% pot committed! u shud have a feel for the bets a player is making at a table whether they have a better hand according to the flop!

     
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Posted by gaupiz:
Everytime I 3bet a JJ hand some donk call with K 3, Q 7 or A 2 nd hits A, K or Q.

Often we think they are donks but JJ is not so high hand as we can think. Obviously is better than K3 or A7 but not too better. Sometimes people that you name donks may be people who read perfectly your game and know they can get a great pot with A-crap or K-Q.
Personally ... I also hate JJ. Because of that, I play this hand very carefully.

     
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I know they are not always donks DaMessiah, but for me they are at the moment they call my JJ.... Tongue
Emotional? Me? Noooo..... Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile
I need to sit in a freezer to cool down sometimes.... I know Smile

     
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Posted by gaupiz:
I need to sit in a freezer to cool down sometimes.... I know Smile

Not difficult now in your town, isn't it? Big Smile We are here in Barcelona over 5C degrees and I'm cold all the day! I cannot imagine living there ... probably I'd be dead!

     
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J J is a great hand...i want every time J J Big Smile ...BUT at poker you can loose with every hand. Angry

     
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Posted by gaupiz:
Oh my God, I hate JJ!
Everytime I 3bet a JJ hand some donk call with K 3, Q 7 or A 2 nd hits A, K or Q.

It just happened again. My JJ losses against A 7.

Some advice here?


its nice to play with pocket pairs... just see the river first b4 u make a move... Smile

     
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Posted by gaupiz:
Oh my God, I hate JJ!
Everytime I 3bet a JJ hand some donk call with K 3, Q 7 or A 2 nd hits A, K or Q.

It just happened again. My JJ losses against A 7.

Some advice here?



I think that JJ is not so fantastic. With this card you play strongly tight to end. Or just check before the flop and after flop: attack or check/pass. Prefers the first option, but in only late position Blink.

     
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Posted by DaMessiah666:
Posted by gaupiz:
I need to sit in a freezer to cool down sometimes.... I know Smile

Not difficult now in your town, isn't it? Big Smile We are here in Barcelona over 5C degrees and I'm cold all the day! I cannot imagine living there ... probably I'd be dead!

Its about -20degrees her at the moment. Staying inside putting woods on the fire and playing poker, also JJs Blink

     
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jj is 95.6% a folder for me, only ever comes off very rarely on small stakes. donks will always call with an ace or king high and hit something, especially on bigbet Aww crap! .

     
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Posted by Pjot:
.. I usually play them like a middle pair, not a high pair...


me too ! you see, this is why I nominated you man Big Smile

     
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by Pjot:
.. I usually play them like a middle pair, not a high pair...


me too ! you see, this is why I nominated you man Big Smile


Me too ! Big Smile
And a lot of good advice in this post...nice.

To those of you with LOW temperatures...
I´m looking at the Palm trees right now through my window.
+25 C in Tenerife.

(not to make anyone jealous or something like that, of course)

     
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I think JJ is a good starting hand to raise with, but have to be played carefully if you are called and an overcard shows on the flop. In this case, i would raise as a semi-bluff, but don't go much far from here if i'm raised. Of course, knowing your villain will add up some points when evaluating a specifica situation.

     
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My advice is dont 3 bet with JJ it's too expensive and beat by those three higher cards too easily

     
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Dont 3 bet with JJ, in my opinion you should make even stronger bet pre flop to doesnt allow the fish to take a piece of the flop. In case they hit the flop, make sure you made them pay well for the oportunity. Thats how it works, they call crap, but doesnt slowplay any hand, try to play agressive pre flop.

     
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