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If you dont understand wot variance is then you get tilted and angry by stuff like this. Everybody has variance over and over, running like god is also variance but positiv one. Downswings cos of beats are bad, if you cant play ur A-game after 2 or 3 beats and get tilted then u have to stop, better is just playin thru it and keep goin, then ur downswing is over much sooner.
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This site is monster, changes game but bad luck keeps on. Nice work jokerstars in the mission of the saves the donks calling stations. Everybody hits, they just need to call any s**t and call and call and the miracle happens 1 after another. When they call they hit, when i call of course i have to fail.
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WTF man...Those aren't bad beats if you want I'll post some here cos I have a ton of them... If you go there with the mentality that the site is rigged then you'll fail...you'll always lose.You're not allowed to think like that if you wanna be a winning player...
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Posted by kinogomes: This site is monster, changes game but bad luck keeps on. Nice work jokerstars in the mission of the saves the donks calling stations. Everybody hits, they just need to call any s**t and call and call and the miracle happens 1 after another. When they call they hit, when i call of course i have to fail.
I think ur losing it, just standard beats, nothing special, if ur tilting about this poker isnt ur game imo.
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Posted by B1gfoot: Something that happend last night, thought you might like it...
What do you mean????
These are not bad beats??? Getting rivered all time... So i dont what is a bad beat. 5th street with flush and villain calling and getting 2 streets straight flush.... Making them pay all the way witrh a bigger pair against unsense hands to play with and get rivered all time. These are some of them, cause yesterday night i lost all the big hands river river river river.
Doomdy, how would you react when you play 2 tables 7card stud high 0.25 0.50 and who would get rivered everytime. Doesnt make sense at all. At 1 point everybody was re rasing me cause they already knew that they would river me. Crap crap crap. Iam not saying online poker is rigged, i just doesnt understand what iam doing worng to get rivered all time, and please dont come with words like your not agressive or stuff like that, i make everybody paying well to get theyr crap untill the river.
At 1 point everybody was re rasing me cause they already knew that they would river me.
come on my friend its not that bad is it? if you feel like this maybe you give give poker a rest, for awhile to clear your head of all this
all i can say to ease the pain is that every1 goes through this at poker at some time, some people take it to heart some people just get on with it part of the game, thats what makes poker fun to watch and that why poker is one of the best card games ever,
il give you some advise and every player would agree with this... drop down to the lowest stakes and when you get a badbeat getting beat by that 1 out ect it wont hurt your bankroll much also it doesnt hurt as muchas it would do playing higher stakes and maybe you can laugh at it, instead of getting upset about it thats what i have done in the past
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My pics are just to show the funny things that go on in poker, seing qqqq is rare, seing qqqq twice in 1 game within 3-4 hands must be close to a record. All im saying is s**t happens, your pics are just that, I could upload at least 30 pics from yesterdays games were I took a beat on the river. (diffrence is im not commited or even care) You are not getting bad beats, just riverd, if you want to know why then post some HH as the pics tell us nothing about the play, for all I know you are limping in and only calling down to the river were you shove. I dont play 7card stud so could not help there.
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Posted by kinogomes: Doomdy, how would you react when you play 2 tables 7card stud high 0.25 0.50 and who would get rivered everytime. Doesnt make sense at all. At 1 point everybody was re rasing me cause they already knew that they would river me. Crap crap crap. Iam not saying online poker is rigged, i just doesnt understand what iam doing worng to get rivered all time, and please dont come with words like your not agressive or stuff like that, i make everybody paying well to get theyr crap untill the river.
All i am saying is that crying (dont mean this in a nasty way) is at no point helping you to outcome this nasty swing. You have to except these beats as part off poker. Sometimes beats come at horrible moments with horrible numbers, but still its part of poker, you have to trust the long run (if ur a winning player that is). Myself, i am break even for a week now cos of beats, AA beated with 1 left at bubble, i got raped, stuff like that, its part of poker, you cant help it, only thing u can do is acept it and keep playing ur A-game, dont try other moves and if ur tilting then simply stop and try to work on ur tiltin behaviour. Iused to tilt a littl in my early days, nowadays i never tilt, when i dont cash in 40 MTTs straigth its just part of poker, its nothing, u can easily dont cash in 100 MTTs straigth, same story just part of poker.
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hey all sometimes hit the worst players in a time I'm losing much dollars that i shove with AK in a wrong situation my AA vs KK most time good enough, and peoples that call me on the turn lost 95 % The only way that I loise my dollars comes to my BRM. and MTT 1 or 2 showdowns to much.
i'm 100 % sure the shufflebot is correct. Bad player hit is gutshot on river have i much lol. It's not always happen that s**t.
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I read the books and they all say that the ngood players make the bad players paying his worst cards untill the river to get the maximum value of the hands.
But for me this have a double meaning, if i make everybody paying the worst hands and they hit me 80% of the times the river, that makes me the bad player and not the good, and lead me to the situations where the luckbox calls me donk
Can somebody ask please to jokerstars turn off the doom switch????
Edited by kinogomes (12 December 2010 @ 13:02 GMT)
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like everyone said badbeats and downswing are part of poker, if you cant handle them u will keep on losing. and better than posting pics of the hands it wud be good if you could post some hand histories, so that people have better understanding of what happened and could offer u any advice ( if u want any) tht could help you.
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Ok, you can stop now, its gettin a littl pathetic now, start a whining thread instead of a badbeat thread. Most are not beats just flips u loose and the last is QQ versus ur JJ, wot u expect??
I say again if u cant handle variance then poker isnot ur game and try sometin else wot make u NOT tilt like bingo or playmoney poker.
Posted by doomdy: Ok, you can stop now, its gettin a littl pathetic now, start a whining thread instead of a badbeat thread. Most are not beats just flips u loose and the last is QQ versus ur JJ, wot u expect??
I say again if u cant handle variance then poker isnot ur game and try sometin else wot make u NOT tilt like bingo or playmoney poker.
yes i totally agree with ya doomdy but maybe he should just put all his pictures and have a rant on that thread which i did afew months ago called the moaning thread lol
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Posted by kinogomes: Here we go with the aces again. 4 AA today 2 got cracked, one won and another nobody called me.
Mission save the donk accomplished.
------------ So close to the final table, but wait!!!! iam not allowed, better smelling the river and go f**k yourself.
When i read your posts i can only say... you should quit... First easy to see you'are tilting a lot. Do you PT3 or Holdem Manager? I am sure most of the "cracked Aces" are just bad played Aces because u can't fold Aces which is just a pair postflop and easy crushed. I was whining like a whore about PokerStars myself some time ago... but when i changed to other sites i got same bad beats... but i multitable 24 tables on Stars that's why i had them more often there. Also Stars have better players if you feel to "weak" you should change site for some smaller.
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Posted by doomdy: Ok, you can stop now, its gettin a littl pathetic now, start a whining thread instead of a badbeat thread. Most are not beats just flips u loose and the last is QQ versus ur JJ, wot u expect??
I say again if u cant handle variance then poker isnot ur game and try sometin else wot make u NOT tilt like bingo or playmoney poker.
Why pathetic???? Of course i cant blame the call of jacks versus queen its very normal. Iam complaining about my bad luck, getting always the bubble is harsh. There are many threads here, iam not asking you to come to this thread and talk. At least respect me, cause i respect everybody in this forum. I have been runing really bad lately, iam hoping to see people giving me ideas to dont get into this monster tilt. Most of hands are bad beats, the fact they its a hit river its a bad beat. Iam not top player, and of course i know that after few years i still make mistakes in the game, my biggest mistake is that i cant stand to see people calling crap and boatting all the way.
I asked pokerstars my HH, if anyone wants to loose a little time and try to discuss it with me i feel i feel honored.
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Posted by kinogomes: Why pathetic???? Of course i cant blame the call of jacks versus queen its very normal. Iam complaining about my bad luck, getting always the bubble is harsh. There are many threads here, iam not asking you to come to this thread and talk. At least respect me, cause i respect everybody in this forum. I have been runing really bad lately, iam hoping to see people giving me ideas to dont get into this monster tilt. Most of hands are bad beats, the fact they its a hit river its a bad beat. Iam not top player, and of course i know that after few years i still make mistakes in the game, my biggest mistake is that i cant stand to see people calling crap and boatting all the way.
I asked pokerstars my HH, if anyone wants to loose a little time and try to discuss it with me i feel i feel honored.
I dont know if ur doin sometin wrong here, i can only judge HH not pics, and also i am not a poker proffesor. but for sure complaining doesnt help, u have to understand the concept of variance, the cards fall the way they do, there is no single player in the world who dont have bad variance from time to time, aslo there is no single player in the world who never has good variance, u have to understand its just part of poker, the better u deal with it, the better ur ''long term'' profit is. Allways try to minimize ur loses and maximize ur profit, maximize profit most players can but minimize losing is so very hard to do cos we are tilting, we have to much ego, we get bored ect.
Anyway i can only say, dont post pics but post HH so we can judge that, and if nothing wrong then there is only 1 thing u can do and thats accept variance. Put in more volume with playing ur A game and if ur a winning players the profit comes to u, very simple
Edit: I understand ur frustration, been there in the past, hope i'll never be there, i can only say with experience: Do very nitty bankrollmanagement, in books u read 50 too 200 buyin rule, i do much more, my roll is close too 50K and all i play is max $50 games, but mostly $5 and $10 games. I never get tilted even when i have 5 horrible beats after each other cos the money doesnt mean anything to me cos i have thousands of buyins left, so its very easy to allways play my A-game, and yes i also have bad streaks but i know its variance and i trust my long term scope and trust my game so i allways can minimize my losing streak and maximize profit, easy to say so hard to do
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Posted by doomdy:
Posted by kinogomes: Why pathetic???? Of course i cant blame the call of jacks versus queen its very normal. Iam complaining about my bad luck, getting always the bubble is harsh. There are many threads here, iam not asking you to come to this thread and talk. At least respect me, cause i respect everybody in this forum. I have been runing really bad lately, iam hoping to see people giving me ideas to dont get into this monster tilt. Most of hands are bad beats, the fact they its a hit river its a bad beat. Iam not top player, and of course i know that after few years i still make mistakes in the game, my biggest mistake is that i cant stand to see people calling crap and boatting all the way.
I asked pokerstars my HH, if anyone wants to loose a little time and try to discuss it with me i feel i feel honored.
I dont know if ur doin sometin wrong here, i can only judge HH not pics, and also i am not a poker proffesor. but for sure complaining doesnt help, u have to understand the concept of variance, the cards fall the way they do, there is no single player in the world who dont have bad variance from time to time, aslo there is no single player in the world who never has good variance, u have to understand its just part of poker, the better u deal with it, the better ur ''long term'' profit is. Allways try to minimize ur loses and maximize ur profit, maximize profit most players can but minimize losing is so very hard to do cos we are tilting, we have to much ego, we get bored ect.
Anyway i can only say, dont post pics but post HH so we can judge that, and if nothing wrong then there is only 1 thing u can do and thats accept variance. Put in more volume with playing ur A game and if ur a winning players the profit comes to u, very simple
