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Joined: May '08
Location: Sweden
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 1362
It is quite an interesting system, and most, if not all, winning players would of course get value of out of it. The problem, I think, is, that there can't be a site with only winning players! Someone has got to lose. And the fish, that always lose, they don't care that much about the rake, since they don't see that many pots coming over to their side of the table.
So, in short, it seems to be better for all players, but it can't work, since it only attracts barracudas.
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 4827
Well, for those who are used to rake, looks like it will be easier to take some money once in a whyle, a bit at a time, each time you play. When you talk about bigger sums of money, it wont look taht fair. Look at this: you will get 1,000$ faster in that rooms than in others. But then you will try to withdraw it and you'll take 900$. In other rooms, each time you do a hand, house takes its part, but when you win 1,000$, their yours and no one else! Whats fair?
Joined: Nov '10
Location: Serbia
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 2087
Look at this: When you win 1000$ at room that takes rake that is like you won 1500$ on rakefree system because they will take 500$ of rake for sure. Of course that is not case if you have hit one BIG tournament result and decided to withdraw right away. Thing is that on this site you dont have big tourneys so...
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 6714
I guess its good for those playing DoNs, or for those who lose, but for a winning cash players or MTT and SnG winners its bad news, simple example. 1 table SnG with $10 BI. Rake free taking down a 1st place = $5 fee. with rake the fee would be $1 My main game is cash, and I like to win pre-flop = No fee, Id not want to go give 10% for these hands. If it aint broke dont try and fix it. I can only see winners getting punished and losers saving a fee.
Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 6197
Posted by B1gfoot: I guess its good for those playing DoNs, or for those who lose, but for a winning cash players or MTT and SnG winners its bad news, simple example. 1 table SnG with $10 BI. Rake free taking down a 1st place = $5 fee. with rake the fee would be $1 My main game is cash, and I like to win pre-flop = No fee, Id not want to go give 10% for these hands. If it aint broke dont try and fix it. I can only see winners getting punished and losers saving a fee.
Ur losing it big time Mr B1gfoot, offcourse BetRaiser is much much much cheaper, cash/sng/mtt totally not the point
Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4873
Posted by B1gfoot: I guess its good for those playing DoNs, or for those who lose, but for a winning cash players or MTT and SnG winners its bad news, simple example. 1 table SnG with $10 BI. Rake free taking down a 1st place = $5 fee. with rake the fee would be $1 My main game is cash, and I like to win pre-flop = No fee, Id not want to go give 10% for these hands. If it aint broke dont try and fix it. I can only see winners getting punished and losers saving a fee.
I think it depends on ur ROI, if u r a big winner its not good for you, but if u r a loser / breakeven/ marginal winner then its very good deal for you considering outrageous amount of rake taken by most of poker networks for low/micro stakes.
Joined: Nov '09
Location: Poland
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 1189
System is good but it's impossible for bigger sites.... 0 profit from loosing players , 0 profit from players who are just trying to get bankroll without withdraws.... rlly bad one for Poker rooms. I played betraiser long time ago ... get from them like 500€+? Don't remember... because they had rlly nice sit's. They were paying to it from their money. Now ... it's not to good :<
Joined: Dec '08
Location: Portugal
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 260
hm strange , seems that it would open some ideas for cheats... a winning player could find a loser, offer 5 % to transfer $$ by chip dumping to him, and he gets the moeny from the losing player...
so...
