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  2-Jan-11, 00:45   #21
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kinogomes 

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Donks doesnt bluff as mu8ch as you think anymore. I think micro stacks are like living in the jungle. One day you get luck to get a good place to rest and next day all the parasites will be bothering you and you just cant sleep. Micro stacks are like that in my opinion, one day you get a good seat and everything is fine you make some bucks reading well the table and the next every donk beats you playing with air against your big guns.
In my opinion micro stacks are not profitable anymore, its hard to get really bad player cause the players are very equal right now 8 they all read the books, and the strategies all over the net), and the rake is killing the size. Too much rake for small pots, thats make only feww wining players at micro.

Its a pain in the ass when i play nl10 and most of the times i pay rake more than in the high stacks tables, with guys playing with more than 5000 dolars. I already payed more than 50 cents rake in nl10 its ridicuslous.

     
  2-Jan-11, 09:13   #22
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crazyjas 
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Posted by kinogomes:
Donks doesnt bluff as mu8ch as you think anymore. I think micro stacks are like living in the jungle. One day you get luck to get a good place to rest and next day all the parasites will be bothering you and you just cant sleep. Micro stacks are like that in my opinion, one day you get a good seat and everything is fine you make some bucks reading well the table and the next every donk beats you playing with air against your big guns.
In my opinion micro stacks are not profitable anymore, its hard to get really bad player cause the players are very equal right now 8 they all read the books, and the strategies all over the net), and the rake is killing the size. Too much rake for small pots, thats make only feww wining players at micro.

Its a pain in the ass when i play nl10 and most of the times i pay rake more than in the high stacks tables, with guys playing with more than 5000 dolars. I already payed more than 50 cents rake in nl10 its ridicuslous.


+1 Thumbs Up even if they r not profitable i'had rather stay there than going to HSP hehe

     
  2-Jan-11, 11:12   #23
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Fakiry 

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You cant be too tigh in micros, or you will loose your chance. Always agressive, but you cant show your type to your oponents, or they will put you aside. Give some chips away, and win others (more than you loose), they wont understand if you know what you're doing or if you're a donk, what matters is that you know you're playing to win. Next time you go to a pot, they think you're gambling and you're going to eat them alive, you'll see! Blink

     
  2-Jan-11, 12:51   #24
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Mudadzija 

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Passive aggressive. Never thought about that kid of strategy but now I like it A LOT.
Here is what I did last couple of days.
I found a customer on stars, memorized his nick and keep following him everywhere.
I know he goes raising slowly all the way to the river and then he shoves all in, with any shtty pair he has.
I let him have a few cents now and then. he gets the feeling he can bully me around whenever he wants.
With a set and higher I call his all in and he feeds my children.
When this guy comes to his wits. I'm sure I'll find another one.

     
  4-Jan-11, 21:09   #25
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ZmxPowah 
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Posted by Mudadzija:
Passive aggressive.


What it is?
Anyway tight-agressive for sure...
Also don't bluff and never hero call on micro...
Many times you will think they are bluffing but most of the time they aren't ^^

     
  5-Jan-11, 19:40   #26
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Mudadzija 

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TAG is one thing, tried it, not so great results.
Tight passive is something from the first post, to play passively and let the opponents have the initiative, for there are a lot of them bluffing silly until the river.
Additionally, if you fold a couple of times and don't raise a lot, they might wrongly assume you are a weak player and try to intimidate you.

     
  6-Jan-11, 18:27   #27
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Nitscho 
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I play often tight agressive... seems like the best option for me... You have least lost and mostly winnings Smile because of donks Big Smile

     
  27-Jan-11, 09:32   #28
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kinogomes 

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I have been playing last week tight passive at nl2 and its being profitable for me, i only raise when i am sure i have the best hand and ususally i get called. If i loose cause iam playing passive i dont loose too much, and with the agression when i win its almost double up most ofthye times.

i Have around 20$ profit in the last 4K hands, so i think its a valid strategy for the micro limit iam playing.

     
  27-Jan-11, 09:36   #29
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mazas 
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tight agressive is only one style for micros Smile if u play not aggresive ull play very long to your 1 -st 10 or 20 $ wining u must play very very agresive and reach results very fast
good luck all and be happy

     
  27-Jan-11, 13:28   #30
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Hajinnho 

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Posted by jovicakralj:
We all know that best and most profitable style is tight-aggressive.
BUT, I think that this is not so good style for micros...
This is why I think that:
All pros,poker forums, books are saying that TA is best style, donks hear and read that and they trying to be aggressive because everybody saying that this is only way to be profitable, so they raising with nothing, trying to bluff all the time but they actually dont know what they doing. Basically they diggin own grave. Just try to play on micros like players on High stakes poker and you will lose youre chips fast. Also seems everyone forget TIGHT in this style. I notice that majority of players that have TA style (on HUDs) and play micros have losses.
So I think best way is to play on micro (I repeat micro) is to be tight-passive and just wait mistakes of those donks who think that they can be Gus or Phil on micros.
Of course that doesnt mean that you must check all time. You have to protect youre hand.

What you guys and girls think?
Club


best way stil is waiting for a "good" hand, and pushing it all in pre-flop. hey are all calling with any ace or broadways...

     
  27-Jan-11, 14:27   #31
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kinogomes 

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Posted by Hajinnho:
Posted by jovicakralj:
We all know that best and most profitable style is tight-aggressive.
BUT, I think that this is not so good style for micros...
This is why I think that:
All pros,poker forums, books are saying that TA is best style, donks hear and read that and they trying to be aggressive because everybody saying that this is only way to be profitable, so they raising with nothing, trying to bluff all the time but they actually dont know what they doing. Basically they diggin own grave. Just try to play on micros like players on High stakes poker and you will lose youre chips fast. Also seems everyone forget TIGHT in this style. I notice that majority of players that have TA style (on HUDs) and play micros have losses.
So I think best way is to play on micro (I repeat micro) is to be tight-passive and just wait mistakes of those donks who think that they can be Gus or Phil on micros.
Of course that doesnt mean that you must check all time. You have to protect youre hand.

What you guys and girls think?
Club


best way stil is waiting for a "good" hand, and pushing it all in pre-flop. hey are all calling with any ace or broadways...


I dont think push to all-in is a good strategy in micro. Honestly i have lost som uch when i was pushing too much QQ JJ 1010 that iam sure that this kind of play is -EV, at least in micro. Now i think i having a better strategy and iam not overplaying the hands and things are runing better. there is no problem to fold KK in the turn or river as iam doing sometimes, but when i get then nuts with this kind of hands i get much better paid.

     
  31-Jan-11, 20:38   #32
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el3ment 

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As the old saying tells, "Tight is right!" Tight range, tt+, AK, AQ, AJ, 22-99 call20 for set-mining, sometimes limp suited connectors from BO/CO (everything of course depends on position). No bluffs (except cbets), no slowplaying, no mixing. Pure ABC of Texas Hold'em. You just have to play almost aggro-monkey style.

     
  17-Feb-11, 15:27   #33
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MOLEY82 

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I think your exacty spot on Big Smile

     
  17-Feb-11, 17:43   #34
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Yuki555 
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TAG is just the way to play on micros, LAG is how most everyone play there. In fact, i think tight passive could do it to if they really are aggressive. But most of the time, they are what we call "calling stations" meaning they cant really take the opportunity to bet in an open pot.

     
  17-Feb-11, 18:23   #35
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huffinator 

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T A G !!! the only way to profit in the long run. Dollar Dollar Dollar

     
  17-Feb-11, 18:33   #36
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ringer2142 
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For micros 2NL to 25NL , esp 2 NL I don't think your play style matters, I mean the types of players that play there are so unpredictable some of them being new to the game or reg NL 2 grinders that are just plain bad. Your playing style def matters once you get out of mirco but for mirco is a joke IMO

     
  18-Feb-11, 06:37   #37
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Arithmajik 

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This is an informative thread with lots of useful advice.

Thanks to all the contributors, I'm playing low stakes, trying to build
up and I'm going to implement some of this advice.

Wish me luck.

     
  18-Feb-11, 08:27   #38
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EimsbushKing 

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its hard to say but in the end you always have to adjust your game to the table you are playing on.

its imo bs to say what style is the most profitable because the style i play always depends on the players im sitting with, but since i want the points for the poll i´ll go with TAG Big Smile

     
  18-Feb-11, 11:07   #39
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mazas 
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tight agressive all know it if u play micro u must play very very agressive and knock oponents with bluffs and also good hands if u play silent games and no agression its mean u must play all the month to collect 10 or 20 $
good luck all and have fun playing poker

     
  18-Feb-11, 23:25   #40
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begbane 
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TAG deffinitly I try other style of playing like LAG or TP but I lose money when I switch play style,so only good style there is TAG,be tight not play any garbage enter into flop on about 20-25% but when you attack,attack with good agression.

     
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