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Luck is always always always the most important in the game.

How do you feel when you have the game dominated and you get beated by the only out your opponent have to beat you????

With no luck, your a 0 in this game. thats how it works. I followed the last season of high stacks poker, and i saw negreneau being beated by Durrr in some hands hwere durrr was playing very LAG and hitted the right cards against the better hands that negreneau has.
Do you think Negreneau is a bad player???? NO HE IS NOT. Do you think Negreneau is not smart?? He is smart enough to know where his opponents are most fo the times. the truth is, he was runing out of luck most of the hands against Durrrr, and that it, its poker, the nature of the game, where for more that you know you can laways be beated by a worst hand.

     
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+1 for midnight she is right we can say want we want you do not hear. Yeah Daniel had a bad run but what do u think they Daniel think as u thats you need more luck as skill for poker OMG.Yeaterday first hand in a tourney my aces was cracked from 47 i raise he go all in and make the str.on the the turn.S**t happens but in the most times i make more money with the idiots as i lost. And you really believe this is luck.
is only from yesterday.The last one is 63$ on the first pic
btw the last sng´s 1$ on the first pic is was a little tired Blink

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and anyone say oh man i´ve lost with the best hand true but how often had u win when u not in front no one tell this thats the mathematic you got % and the most time you win when you know the basic´s. But the most players don´t really know the basic´s really.There gives many players there mean maybe a small pocket like 33,44,55 are in front vs higher suited connector´s like 56,67,78 that´s not true and is only one example,they don´t know betting style and so on.To win in poker you must know really the basic´s(Bankrollmangement are one great part from the basic´s)have a feeling for the game and you must can fold cards luck too but is not the greastest part from the game,disipline is one great part

Edited by watoba (22 January 2011 @ 18:59 GMT)

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Posted by kinogomes:
Luck is always always always the most important in the game.

How do you feel when you have the game dominated and you get beated by the only out your opponent have to beat you????

With no luck, your a 0 in this game. thats how it works...


Pfft !

What a load a if crap.

Maybe on an individual hand - or even a single game/session/day.

But in the long run you'll run pretty close to your EV. And that's all skill.

     
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by kinogomes:
Luck is always always always the most important in the game.

How do you feel when you have the game dominated and you get beated by the only out your opponent have to beat you????

With no luck, your a 0 in this game. thats how it works...


Pfft !

What a load a if crap.

Maybe on an individual hand - or even a single game/session/day.

But in the long run you'll run pretty close to your EV. And that's all skill.


Tell him Jess.

First time i read his thread i was like maybe we can help him, now its all BS and he only listen too himself. Contr-Alt-Del imo.....

     
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Posted by doomdy:
First time i read his thread i was like maybe we can help him, now its all BS and he only listen too himself. Contr-Alt-Del imo.....

LMFAO, only took 5 pages to realise Smile
Post #1should have gave some indication Cool Thats pretty much were I gave up, the rest was for the benafit of outhers and self amusement.
This thread is total LOL. I gave up on my first reply, good to see outhers are starting to follow.
Even the poll, LOL...IDK. Big Smile

     
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Posted by B1gfoot:
Posted by doomdy:
First time i read his thread i was like maybe we can help him, now its all BS and he only listen too himself. Contr-Alt-Del imo.....

LMFAO, only took 5 pages to realise Smile
Post #1should have gave some indication Cool Thats pretty much were I gave up, the rest was for the benafit of outhers and self amusement.
This thread is total LOL. I gave up on my first reply, good to see outhers are starting to follow.
Even the poll, LOL...IDK. Big Smile


So true lolll Tongue

I must giv up convincing players pokers isnt about luck Cool
Well, i giv up on this 1, he is too lucky Cool

     
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Posted by doomdy:
Posted by B1gfoot:
Posted by doomdy:
First time i read his thread i was like maybe we can help him, now its all BS and he only listen too himself. Contr-Alt-Del imo.....

LMFAO, only took 5 pages to realise Smile
Post #1should have gave some indication Cool Thats pretty much were I gave up, the rest was for the benafit of outhers and self amusement.
This thread is total LOL. I gave up on my first reply, good to see outhers are starting to follow.
Even the poll, LOL...IDK. Big Smile


So true lolll Tongue

I must giv up convincing players pokers isnt about luck Cool
Well, i giv up on this 1, he is too lucky Cool


I understand you dude, everybody comes here with the saying your a good player and you are indeed. then i present some hands and you try to ridicularize me (wich is nice of you) and then another guy giving you reason and to finish appears the king of the forum with good sense (when he forgots half the the crap he puts here).

Iam still waiting the doomdy full of wisdom giving me the advice to fold the last hand i puted here.

Crap crap crap but noone of the smart-asses accpeted my challenge.

CHEERS UNTILL THE NEXT THREAD.

     
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I must admit that last hand has convinced me, from now on, no more walking under ladders, no black cat shall cross my path, im going to collect 4 leaf clovers, take extra care around mirrors, hang a horse shoe over my door, do the magpie thing, I will never open a umbrella in doors, I wont do anything involving the number 13, avoid walking past people on the stais, dont play Davoodoo, never put my shoes on the table and touch wood I will become a much better player.
Reading them books and taking advice playing the odds and having a good understanding of whome im playing was such a waste of time.

     
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Posted by B1gfoot:

Reading them books and taking advice playing the odds and having a good understanding of whome im playing was such a waste of time.


Nice joke Bigfoot
Blink

     
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Posted by B1gfoot:
I must admit that last hand has convinced me, from now on, no more walking under ladders, no black cat shall cross my path, im going to collect 4 leaf clovers, take extra care around mirrors, hang a horse shoe over my door, do the magpie thing, I will never open a umbrella in doors, I wont do anything involving the number 13, avoid walking past people on the stais, dont play Davoodoo, never put my shoes on the table and touch wood I will become a much better player.
Reading them books and taking advice playing the odds and having a good understanding of whome im playing was such a waste of time.


sums it up.

I like that we all got some Thumbs Down I should get admin do delete my account lol.

     
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Posted by JeVoOo:
doomdy Smile hey bud

I think the point is, that he's possibly already playing ABC and it's not working. Obviously no-one knows that for sure, he could be straight up overplaying hands.


you saying that it's not knowlede???? Blink

     
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As i always say poker is game of luck, no matter what, the long run will not be the same if your not lucky today.

     
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You should just stop posting in here dude. You don't get it.

     
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It happens more often than people think, at least that we still have much to think about being a professional, if you keep the bankroll after that the important thing is to have fun Big Smile

     
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We all remember bad beats. Also fact is that when you are good player you have better chances to get bad beat because you will be involved in more hands in which you will be favorite because if you are good player then you are able to fold when you know that you are behind. But that is not luck! That is statistic! That is possibility! You cant say: I play 3 years and im unlucky all the time! That is impossible! If you have more bad beats then others that is because in most of hands you are favorite and when things go as you expected you say: Look this donk! What a stupid call! But whrn you got bad beat you say: this is impossible! All the time! Why am I so unlucky!!!???? Aww crap!
Im not more lucky then you are (just busted from final table, I had AK, guy had 53 ad I raised PF) but I manage to be profitable, so you just have to find a way!
Club Club Club

     
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Posted by kinogomes:
As i always say poker is game of luck, no matter what, the long run will not be the same if your not lucky today.

What the ... do you complain even when you win? There you go, luck just evened out.

Your last post firmly convinces me that you are a big troll ...

     
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Posted by BadeaCelRau:
Posted by kinogomes:
As i always say poker is game of luck, no matter what, the long run will not be the same if your not lucky today.

What the ... do you complain even when you win? There you go, luck just evened out.

Your last post firmly convinces me that you are a big troll ...


I'd like to think he's just trolling. I can appreciate, even respect that. But I've worked in CS long enough to know.. well.. the average intelligence of people out there.. believe me - it's very possible he is being serious.

But hopefully your right. It'd be a nice thought.

     
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by BadeaCelRau:
Posted by kinogomes:
As i always say poker is game of luck, no matter what, the long run will not be the same if your not lucky today.

What the ... do you complain even when you win? There you go, luck just evened out.

Your last post firmly convinces me that you are a big troll ...


I'd like to think he's just trolling. I can appreciate, even respect that. But I've worked in CS long enough to know.. well.. the average intelligence of people out there.. believe me - it's very possible he is being serious.

But hopefully your right. It'd be a nice thought.


I think you both should sue me to make you loose your time reading what i post.


I forgot we are all free to post whatever we want, and we are all free to go and read whatever we want too. But iam firmly convinced that the best soluctions for your complains is decide the case in court.

     
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ok i give up my last post in this thread my hope is gone the only reason to lose is when u not play right.Last 7 tourney´s 4 cashes SNG 4 from 8 a little unlucky today in sng´s but 3 times 1. no big money but little profit it´s only luck right.Sure i´m unlucky the last tourney´s to cash big everytime donk out or run again a better hand or play bad but the most times i´m favourite preflop or flop so i know my game is good.
The donk calls are hard when u had a good stack and go out with a few bucks or nothing but we make money with the donks in a long run. And when i play bad i´m learnig from that so my game is better next time.And i know is a question of time to win a tourney or make a good place with a few 100$.These month the biggest over 200$
When it´s only luck i´m the last 10 years one of the luckiest man on earth maybe i should play lotterie.
In one point i´m unlucky when i had the chance to win a very big tourney.So my biggest win online was only 2500$ but how i say i hope a ouestion of time.
So play right u win play bad u lose and when u only lose in cashgame let it be OMG

btw my aces was cracked today 3 times in a roll but i´m not crying about for that.Only for maybe 3 minutes
Blink

Edited by watoba (24 January 2011 @ 09:49 GMT)


     
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kINOGNOMES,,, I will tell you my friend you really are not listening!! certain members have taking the time to give you good solid advice on poker strategy and maths, now I will give you some,, bend over because I am going to give your backside such a slap you silly silly bad boy!! Evil

     
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