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im sure ull be fine..if ur doin 6months in cananda chances r ull only serve 2...6 months and 1day ull prolly still only do 2 and sent to the farm...not bad at all on the farm there with other inmates with bare to no supervision workin and s**t..trust me work will sound great after a few weeks in! i would suggest being on ur best behaviour lockdowns ruff, 23 hours a day in ur cell doin s**t! can only masterbate and do pushups soo much before gettin tired of that! which province u from? atlantic canada is were im from and its a joke. hear ontario can be a lil brutal
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Well, Wininghand, of course I would protect my home. But as soon as the intruder was neutralized, driven off, or whatever, I would stop the violence. In my register of actions, there is no such thing as beating people into a pulp. I don't really see the point of doing that.
I do not have the time, or urge, to go to jail. In my country, Sweden, it is mostly rather stupid people that have and do. I am not saying it is the same over there.
Just because one lives in one of your very though neighbourhoods, you have to break peoples legs, after beating them down?
I do not really understand why this has to be done. Could you explain to an old fart that has priorly only broken his own leg?
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Posted by WININGHAND79:
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by midnight1954:
Posted by xpok3rkingx: All i did was defend my house , when i lived in the hood i woke up to a native guy trying to get in the door with a screw driver i beat him to a pulp broke his ribs his nose his and legs , then a few days later i seen him walk into the next house next to me with casts , cruches all buised up ...turns out he was just really drunk and tried going into the wrong house , lmao
if what you are saying is true, WHICH i DOUBT , sure you have the right to protect your property but the level of violence needed to produce the injuries you describe(BEAT TO A PULP!) are I think well above reasonable force, in fact sounds like something an animal would do, in my country you would I hope be looking at more than six months , plus charges of criminal assualt , the victim would also be intitled to compensation for the injuries you inflicted on him, he was drunk also and probably unable to defend himself by the sound of it which makes it even worse, didn't you try to communicate with him before you launched your attack? If I or anyone I know showed this behaviour I certainly would not broadcast it on the web, rather hide in shame, I would like to see some evidence of your actions, perhaps a report from the court, or a letter from the jail!
Completely agree. Well said Midnight.
Not sure why you getting so many - suppose I'll get one now lol.
I'm pretty disturbed by how many people supporting OP - extreme violence is NOT an appropriate response to this behavior.
In most instances, even if they were trying to break into your house - most likely they are homeless or drug addicted and desperately trying to support themselves - most like a product of family violence/abuse themselves. The last thing people like this needs is an agressive psychopath beating them "to a pulp". Fucking shame man.
And to all those agreeing that this is apropriate - YOU ARE THE REASON POLICE EXIST.
Seriously get a grip.
Saying all that - disturbed as I am by those people condoning extreme violence - I am not surprised - the amount of idiots - particularly young men - who think this sort of behavior is acceptable, is far to high.
You don't need jail - that'll probably only make this violence more ingrained in your character - you need some therapy and anger management.
.....come on guys... FIRST...he lived in a bad area...he said that already. it isnt like ur pretty little neabourhood, where kids do B & E's for you leaf blower...or camcorder...in a bad area u dont ever know...what if he was here for this gents wife?? life is twisted ppl..try watchin A & E, or coldcase files....or law& order or any freakin show!!
plus it was late and someone was breaking into his house!!!!!!!
i have a wife and 2 kids...and if some poor mofo..drunk or not...was trying to get in my house would be getting his legs and ribs broken too!!!!!
jess & the rest of you...just because you cant picture "YOURSELF" doing something, doesnt mean it wasnt done....."let me see ur court papers"........who are you again??? i mean.. in kingx life.. to ask for proof of something ????? "just because you havent seen it doesnt mean it dont exist" get it!!
and let me ask you this......to protect ur love ones..you wouldnt defend ur home??? hahahah would you hide and wait for the cops...wait while he did ..."whatever" to ur family?? would you wait and listen to him in ur house or hear ur kids crying while you hide?? or would u do something about it??
I WOULD SMASH ANY CLOWN TRYING TO GET IN MY HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD NEBOURHOOD OR BAD.....BIG DRUNK GUY....OR SKINNY LITTLE PRICK...I WOULD BEAT HIS ASS TILL THE COPS GOT THERE!!!!!!!
W2G KINGX...... A TRUE MAN PROTECTS HIS FAMILY!!!!!!!!
protecting my family is number one!!! i would do ANYTHING to make sure my kids...and/or wife get to see the future!!!
but hey...im italian too...so maybe it is just us!!!! hahhhahahaa
well said, yes many people cant imagine how it could be outside safeville with a population of 300 people. You would regret the rest of your life if you didnt take action and something really happened to your loved ones. Where i live with my kids and girlfriend, if someone come to your house in the night, its not for fun. And i would not hestigate to neutralize that person who holds a weapon on my doorstep either. Jail or not, but like i said. If its all a mistake, you wont reach that point where you have to break his legs and his ribs. that is unnessesary violence, unless he starts to protect himself in the believe he might be home. And then then im sure they would look at the circumstances and not put you in jail for 6 months
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I agree with protecting your home and family but the OP went a littel to far . If this guy was as drunk as OP says and he beat him to the point he says he did then OP desreves what he gets. Did the drunk try to fight back? At what point did the OP decide to stop without killing him? Hearing the break of the legs is that what snapped you back to reality? Who called the police and was the drunk charged? Would you do anything different now?
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Winninghand79: How can you make these assumptions? you have no idea.
FWIW: I was out of home at 15 and have spent a large part of my adult life since then injecting drugs, meth, heroin, etc. I've lived in squats and even homeless for a bit. I've never lived in safesville - never will.
I got my life on track now. But through all that I've been through and put myself through: I've never resorted to that kind of violence and it's always disgusted me when I've seen it. I've seen your sort head stomp guys who were drunk and rude etc - thinking it's justified caused they called you some s**t or another - reason enough to disfigure their face right ?
I know your sort, you don't know me for s**t and never could - you're a fucking psychopath.
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to be honest any house breaker should get a kicking i think lol these people are scumbags all the ones i have known, i knew one who killed a friend of mines father also who had started some crap with me earlier and i regret i never went back to boot the s**t out him as later that night he murdered my friends father after breaking into his house. But you say that a kicking is the last thing they need as if they dont know right from wrong which is just bulls**t even if he is a junkie or got probs you should not be breaking into houses there is no excuse for it and imo people who get caught at it deserve a kicking maybe the guy went over the top a bit but at the end of the day he is at his house with a screwdriver ffs and im sure most people would not think twice when some guy is at his door with a screwdriver
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@Flippedchips
Just because you know somebody who murdered your friends father and ALSO broke into a house. That is really a pretty extreme situation and certainly not the normal likely hood. I don't think everyone doing B&E's is about to turn into a murderer.
I never said these people don't know right from wrong or anything else - but you saying it's no excuse - you have NFI - if you knew how it was for some people - you'd eat your f**king words. People grow up abused and neglected - they literally were never taught to respect your property. You don't know what you're talking about.
Also - beyond that - since that doesn't cover anyone anyway - maybe somebody breaking into your house is just doing it cause they're a prick - who knows. Extreme violence just simply isn't appropriate.
That's not how our society works and is not a civilized response - do you think we are living in 300 BC or some b******t ? We have laws and punishment already - these are not for you to decide.
I know you think that because somebody is breaking into YOUR house stealing YOUR things - that you have the RIGHT to bash them 'to a pulp' - breaking limbs, ribs, etc - I'm afraid society says otherwise and thank f**k for that. I don't know how you possibly think this is OK.
It's about using reasonable force flipped. If you need to restrain/disable somebody fine - if you need to KILL somebody in self-defence - fine - but the moment somebody goes down - or is no longer coming at you - you need to stop.
EDIT: I am not responding to anything else in here - as IslandJack says - it just makes me angry that you people think like this and there's really no point arguing with you aggressive nut jobs - you all think you tough cunts and heros and there's no getting through. I'm out.
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all im going to say is there is no fucking excuse i dont give a crap how they got brought up, like they dont know what they are doing. that was an extreme case i said about but i know alot of guys like that and they all tended to be scumbags in general. you dont get nice guys breaking into your house and i thnk giving them a good kicking well will teach them a lesson maybe make them think more than the jail because all the ones i have known they have all just came out to do it again and again. If you stay in a bad area to you can end up getting your house hit often so giving them a good kicking is not bad in my eyes but maybe my views on house breakers are extreme as your views on religion btw he was breaking into his house when he murdered him stabed him in the chest when he came down stairs just thought i would say that as the way you said before ALSO broke into a house, he was doing it, thats what i call a shame not some poor house breaker getting a kicking because he got brought up bad as i know many that were not brought up great but turn out just fine and know right from wrong
Edited by Flippedchips (03 February 2011 @ 03:25 GMT)
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Stick to your line of defense, it was an unwanted trespasser, you have a right to defend your property in every civilized country, I don't believe they will inprison you. You did a right thing.
the point of the argument is this ,violence!, the original post stated that he beat to a pulp the drunk man who was mistakinly trying to get into his house , also breaking his legs in the process, everyone excepts that we have a right to defend our homes , with reasonable force, the question is did the original poster if telling the truth , use reasonable force, I guess not , to inflict this much damage on another human being shows signs of uncontrolled rage and that the other person could not defend himself, also the original poster showed no remorse or shame , this shows in my opinion his nature , giving reason to his actions by saying he was defending his home or family only hides the nature of this attack.
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Posted by el3ment: Stick to your line of defense, it was an unwanted trespasser , you have a right to defend your property in every civilized country, I don't believe they will inprison you. You did a right thing.
it was not an unwanted tresspasser trying to rob or attack your family it was some drunk , mistakingly trying to get into what he thought was his own home, probably some drunk old man , unable to defend himself never mind cause harm to anyone
Edited by midnight1954 (03 February 2011 @ 08:58 GMT)
correct me if am wrong but in the usa they are allowed to use guns??? if a intruder breaks into your home there you can shoot them, so this drunk is very lucky he deosnt live in the usa
oh by the way a few people are forgetting this drunk had a screw driver, also classed as a weapon................. and being drunk is still no excuse imo
yes in certain states you can shoot and ask questions later,, does that make it right? look at there statistics on gun crime, unlawful shooting,ect,ect,, I still have doubts about the truth of the original post so I dont feel like going on with this thread
Posted by midnight1954: yes in certain states you can shoot and ask questions later,, does that make it right? look at there statistics on gun crime, unlawful shooting,ect,ect
no not really just saying he is lucky that this didnt take place in the usa, casue he would be dead for this actions
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Posted by dozn01: correct me if am wrong but in the usa they are allowed to use guns??? if a intruder breaks into your home there you can shoot them, so this drunk is very lucky he deosnt live in the usa
oh by the way a few people are forgetting this drunk had a screw driver, also classed as a weapon................. and being drunk is still no excuse imo
lol yup in the usa u can...but in canada if ur in posession of a handgun ur more then likly facing jail time..pretty strick with gun use even regesterd weapons can cause unwanted attention!
my buddys house got raided a few years back and they only found less then a pound of dope and 21 extasy pills...and he got in more trouble over the 3 shotgun shells they found
- suppose I'll get one now lol.
