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Joined: Jan '08
Location: Croatia
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 1308
This one i found on FTP forum, that thread is too long so i copy pasted relevant things. Player Scams - Money Transfers Posted: 2006-01-04 09:06
One of the main threats in online poker rooms are player scams. Poker sites themselves are frequently dealing with players making fraudulent deposits, money laundering, and other acts which attempt to steal money from the poker site.
Player scams threaten other players as well. One such scam is tricking players in money transfer schemes.
ONE APPROACH TO THIS SCAM
A player contacts his victim using a table invite or a general plea in the online chat box. His dilemma is that he needs $xxx to join an event/tournament at a poker site, but all his bankroll is tied up at another site (or somewhere else.)
The player asks the potential victim to transfer him money via poker site transfer or Western Union or some such, and he will re-transfer the victim more money on the other poker site or using another means.
A recent poster at Two Plus Two explained what happened to him.
In this example, a table observer at Poker Stars asked if anyone was familiar with Western Union (a means to transfer money) and would like to make a few dollars. A player responded that he could help.
After luring this player using the poker site, the scammer then moved communication to MSN Messenger.
The scammer's proposal was to send the victim money on PokerStars using the internal transfer method. Then the victim would transfer slightly less via Western Union.
Everything went as planned at the beginning -- the scammer transferred the funds to the victim at Poker Stars first. Feeling comfortable the then victim made a money transfer to return funds back to the scammer less his take for doing the favor.
A few days later the victim was informed by Poker Stars that his account was suspended and being investigated. Poker Stars security said the money transfer he received from the scammer was a fraudulent deposit. This means the scammer made a deposit to Poker Stars that "bounced" or which he quickly reversed, or the charge was done using a stolen credit card. Therefore, the money wasn't cleared at Poker Stars yet.
When you deposit money at Poker Stars, they make funds available for your use in play immediately. However, the funds may take some time to clear. During this time, poker sites are vulnerable to fraud.
The victim lost the entire amount of his Western Union transfer.
HOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF
1. Do not participate in funds transfers with other players unless it is someone you know and trust. These scammers are taking advantage of others who are trying to make a quick buck. If it sounds too good to be realistic, then it is. To be safe, avoid all money transfer situations like this.
2. If a player or observer approaches you and solicits funds at any poker site, you should immediately notify the site's support team. Don't just ignore this player. If this scammer has an account with fraudulent funds, it is better for everyone that the scammer be stopped immediately.
Think twice people before engaging in any activity on the internet. (Admin feel free to remove points for this i only thought that people should be aware of this)
Joined: Jan '08
Location: Canada
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 2698
lol, someone asked me to transfer him money to Ultimate Bet but I told him just get a free bankroll there. And I attempted to deposit $50 in Pokerstars and my echeck failed lol but they already sent me the money but they took it back. Than it gave me bad credit on pokerstars but I talked to support and they took me off the "bad list" lol
Joined: Feb '08
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 82
This is a very nice tread. Like you say the system is the same. I saw it once again on the tables ( maybe it was on T6poker ), and i was wondered but later i understand what`s happened with the this man. This is so sick.
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United States
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 407
Im glad you posted that Predobar. I never would do a player transfer with someone i didnt know. I would however have fallen for that trick where they transfer money to me first. Thanks for the heads up!
Joined: Jan '08
Location: Brazil
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 1788
I agree that, of course, a very SMALL percentage of people who actually ask for these kinds of transfers are telling the truth and want to do an honest trade, but unfortunately the number of fraudulent sharks are too high to risk a good deed. Sorry to all you honest people out there, but I´m not risking any transfers!
Joined: Dec '07
Location: Finland
Age: 70 (M)
Posts: 329
some guy tried to csam my money once! i was a member of some pokerforum and someone who had about 200 posts in forum(all posts was good not spam) wanted me to transfer money in pokerstars and i said yes i can do that.bgut then someone warned me of that guy and i didnt transfer the money. WARNING SOME ONE NEW IN FORUM ARE SOMETIMES SCAMMERS!!!