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  15-Feb-11, 22:16   #1
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wagner89 

Joined: Feb '10
Location: Romania
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 8
(srry 4 my english)i am begginer and i dont understand what was in his mind??why did he call??in that moment i was thinking that i must isolate the guy that went all-in.do u think that was a wrong move???



PokerStars Game #57722327697: Tournament #360452893, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2011/02/15 22:39:31 EET [2011/02/15 15:39:31 ET]
Table '360452893 87' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: steviebhoy67 (1125 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: goosenine (5471 in chips)
Seat 3: wagner89 (3217 in chips)
Seat 4: MEDO543 (2163 in chips)
Seat 5: HamishTPB (3855 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: givemethemap (2164 in chips)
Seat 7: dmvictum (555 in chips)
Seat 8: Johnny Yad (5950 in chips)
Seat 9: TheTaker49 (1475 in chips)
steviebhoy67: posts small blind 50
goosenine: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wagner89 [Kh Ac]
wagner89: calls 100
MEDO543: folds
HamishTPB: folds
givemethemap: folds
dmvictum: raises 455 to 555 and is all-in
Johnny Yad: calls 555
TheTaker49: folds
steviebhoy67: folds
goosenine: calls 455
wagner89: raises 1545 to 2100
Johnny Yad: calls 1545
goosenine: calls 1545
*** FLOP *** [Kc 4h 4s]
goosenine: checks
wagner89: bets 1117 and is all-in
Johnny Yad: raises 1117 to 2234
goosenine: folds
Uncalled bet (1117) returned to Johnny Yad
*** TURN *** [Kc 4h 4s] 10 of hearts
*** RIVER *** [Kc 4h 4s Th] 10 of clubs
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wagner89: shows [Kh Ac] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
Johnny Yad: shows [3c 4c] (a full house, Fours full of Tens)
Johnny Yad collected 6869 from side pot
dmvictum: shows [Td Ks] (a full house, Tens full of Kings)
dmvictum collected 2270 from main pot
wagner89 finished the tournament in 829th place




     
  15-Feb-11, 22:30   #2
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Irisheyes 

Joined: Dec '09
Location: Ireland
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 389
cos it was a freeroll? just a guess. yep,stupid call also Aww crap!
welcome to the forum and better luck next time

     
  15-Feb-11, 22:45   #3
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BadeaCR 
Joined: Oct '10
Location: Romania
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 178
I've seen worse in a sng today. One guy was pushing every 2 cards and he actually eliminated every player at the table except me(6players table) :-o, then I beat him and collected first prize Big Smile but that's not the point, the point is people get incredibly lucky sometimes.

     
  15-Feb-11, 22:48   #4
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wagner89 

Joined: Feb '10
Location: Romania
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 8
yes freeroll.pokerschollonline skill league.but there are a lot of money.i think that most of players take it seriously.in that moment my rank was 180 for 30$$..and for me this is the only way to get a bankroll.i dont want to lose my money Big Smile

     
  16-Feb-11, 01:35   #5
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awood88 
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 1885
Ok first of all I don't think you should limp utg with AK. You should definitely raise first off.

I personally wouldn't call with 3c 4c and I'm not justifying Johnny Yad's play but he probably thought he had two live cards and of course people love suited connectors so he calls the all-in maybe to see a flop.

You raise 1545 into a pot that already has 2200+. You should really have pushed all-in but considering things you'd probably have been called anyway. Maybe he thinks that the other player will also call and he is still likely to have live cards so maybe he is committed. All in all typical freeroll play all round.

     
  16-Feb-11, 01:48   #6
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oll1e999 

Joined: Jun '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 483
1. This must be a free roll
2. There's always a donk
& 3. You should of raised

     
  16-Feb-11, 01:52   #7
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oldboy7 
Joined: Aug '10
Location: United States
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 156
same happens to me all the time nutz aint it

     
  16-Feb-11, 05:42   #8
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 6680
If you want to isolate the first player, go all-in yourself. Little point in raising 2/3 of your stack. But if a player calls your raise with 43s, he will most likely call the all in too.

     
  16-Feb-11, 10:29   #9
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mahdrof 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Canada
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 2386
This is online poker. I think in live poker somebody who would make an excessively bad “bingo” style call would get his teeth punch in, but online what can you do? Type some sh*t into the chat box? On FullTilt give your Frankenstein character a frown? People call with anything and hit, and not just at freerolls but much higher. GL!

     
  16-Feb-11, 12:05   #10
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IslandJack 

Joined: Oct '09
Location: Belgium
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 2851
Posted by mahdrof:
This is online poker. I think in live poker somebody who would make an excessively bad �bingo� style call would get his teeth punch in, but online what can you do? Type some sh*t into the chat box? On FullTilt give your Frankenstein character a frown? People call with anything and hit, and not just at freerolls but much higher. GL!


Yep! Unfortunately it´s getting higher.
Playing $5-6 Sng´s has often become a "freeroll" type of game in the last 6 months.
Very sad IMO, but what can you do?

Played for a Step 3 ticket ($26) 3 days ago, and 4 people donked out in about 4-6 min.
In an SNG 1-table! Idiots and very sad for Poker in general.
I got my step 3 tough....but VERY VERY carefully... Confused

     
  16-Feb-11, 12:58   #11
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huffinator 

Joined: Jan '10
Location: United States
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 205
its not only in the freerolls ,it has spread out into ring and sngs to they come in firing and usually the tight plrs fold and they pick up blinds 3 or 4 hands and then poof they are gone.good strategy if you can get by with it on 10 tables each day then you could make an extra 5 bucks a day lmao but unfortunatley i dont have stack to challenge a dummy like that to get paid off.

     
  16-Feb-11, 13:58   #12
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 42 (F)
Posts: 13884
besides the fact its a freeroll, there are many donks out there.
either they get free money and try to have profit as fast as possible, or they have to much money to spend and they dont care if they loose or not(cause ive witnessed that many times also).
So the only way there is to have more luck than them, something rare though since 90% of the times its them who get lucky Smile

     
  16-Feb-11, 19:21   #13
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flexibleeric 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 228
Posted by BadeaCR:
I've seen worse in a sng today. One guy was pushing every 2 cards and he actually eliminated every player at the table except me(6players table) :-o, then I beat him and collected first prize Big Smile but that's not the point, the point is people get incredibly lucky sometimes.



hahaha..reminds me of someone playing an $11 SNG earlier. he was down to 200 chips.big blind was 600 i think.he was forced all in and hit a straight beating AA. he then went all in for the next few hands dealing bad beats on consecutive hands and became chip leader.he eventually won.if you could only see them chatting.it was freaking hilarious.the guys at the table was fuming mad Big Smile

     
  16-Feb-11, 21:58   #14
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crazyhorse99 
Joined: Jun '09
Location: United States
Age: 65 (M)
Posts: 291
I won a $5 SNG the exact way but I had 300 chips and it was the most fun I had playing poker watching all the whiner's cry. They done thought I was out of that game for sure. Still lmao Smile

     
  16-Feb-11, 22:31   #15
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Hajinnho 

Joined: Jan '10
Location: Germany
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 1379
Posted by wagner89:
(srry 4 my english)i am begginer and i dont understand what was in his mind??why did he call??in that moment i was thinking that i must isolate the guy that went all-in.do u think that was a wrong move???



PokerStars Game #57722327697: Tournament #360452893, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2011/02/15 22:39:31 EET [2011/02/15 15:39:31 ET]
Table '360452893 87' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: steviebhoy67 (1125 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: goosenine (5471 in chips)
Seat 3: wagner89 (3217 in chips)
Seat 4: MEDO543 (2163 in chips)
Seat 5: HamishTPB (3855 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: givemethemap (2164 in chips)
Seat 7: dmvictum (555 in chips)
Seat 8: Johnny Yad (5950 in chips)
Seat 9: TheTaker49 (1475 in chips)
steviebhoy67: posts small blind 50
goosenine: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wagner89 [Kh Ac]
wagner89: calls 100
MEDO543: folds
HamishTPB: folds
givemethemap: folds
dmvictum: raises 455 to 555 and is all-in
Johnny Yad: calls 555
TheTaker49: folds
steviebhoy67: folds
goosenine: calls 455
wagner89: raises 1545 to 2100
Johnny Yad: calls 1545
goosenine: calls 1545
*** FLOP *** [Kc 4h 4s]
goosenine: checks
wagner89: bets 1117 and is all-in
Johnny Yad: raises 1117 to 2234
goosenine: folds
Uncalled bet (1117) returned to Johnny Yad
*** TURN *** [Kc 4h 4s] 10 of hearts
*** RIVER *** [Kc 4h 4s Th] 10 of clubs
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wagner89: shows [Kh Ac] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
Johnny Yad: shows [3c 4c] (a full house, Fours full of Tens)
Johnny Yad collected 6869 from side pot
dmvictum: shows [Td Ks] (a full house, Tens full of Kings)
dmvictum collected 2270 from main pot
wagner89 finished the tournament in 829th place





yes, sometimes it is some of the hardest sports ever... i hope soon the situation comes that you will love that game again Blink

     
  16-Feb-11, 22:42   #16
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Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 3361
Let's all remember people are risky or should I say not to concerned when it comes to betting in freerolls. Freerolls mean play for free! Take a chance! If you lose deal with it you have nothing, but time in the game. No money, no cares or as much for some people. Ya play to have fun and not worry since your not losing anything anyway.

FREEROLLS Thanks BRM

     
  17-Feb-11, 12:40   #17
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mazas 
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Lithuania
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 2805
a lot off stories was about then u can loose oly if turn and river brings apponent luck and its happens very offten then more u ll play poker then more u can see this kind off deal and never say unbelievebe becouse in not long future or maybe today u ll see again the same deal and i hope it will be the lucky hand yours Big Smile
good luck all and remember for the online poker unbelievebles deals not last(exist) Big Smile

     
  17-Feb-11, 18:43   #18
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flexibleeric 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 228
Posted by crazyhorse99:
I won a $5 SNG the exact way but I had 300 chips and it was the most fun I had playing poker watching all the whiner's cry. They done thought I was out of that game for sure. Still lmao Smile


hahaha..nice one Smile sometimes there's just these type of players you just want to beat because they chat too much.whether you play like a donk as long as their beaten.i know it's not the right way to play, but god, it feels good to knock them out Big Smile

     
  17-Feb-11, 18:49   #19
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ringer2142 
Joined: Feb '10
Location: United States
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 21
You played AK wrong, I mean your mixing up your play by limping cus ur in early and there is a high chance that someone might shove or raise, that you did okay but then when that player went all in with 555 and ther other player called, you should had shoved, what you raise you were already pot commited, so why not shove

     
  21-Feb-11, 23:38   #20
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buenagueitor 
Joined: Oct '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 66
Would be weird if this happend to you in cash tables. Bad luck this time, thats all, If you play with people that dont really give a monkey if they loose poker become a game of luck not about skill.

Try to play low buy-in tournments or cash tables. there people try to win and dont let their chips in luck hands.

     
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