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World Series of Poker (WSOP) Situation: $200 buy in tourney. Top 90 pay & 101 left. Avg stack is 27K. Chip leader has 182K and small stack is 1,400. Blinds/Antes: 400/800/75 Your Position/Stack: Puck/24K Your Hand: Ah10h Action: Folded to you. SB has 7K and BB has 4K after posting their blinds. ...
Do you:
A) Fold B) Limp & fold to a raise C) Limp & call any raise D) Raise – & fold to any re-raise E) Raise – & call any re-raise F) All In
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Push.
We are close to the bubble and have two much smaller stacks in the blinds. We have a quite good hand, so we don't mind to get called. But most likely they will fold. If one wakes up with a monster and beats us, we still have a stack to play with.
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same raise i do everytime with anything 3x and call them if they go all in, you have plenty chips left if you lose and should not be any trouble for the cash but to get your chips back if you just go all in the bigger stack may fold an A8,A9,KQ or KJ if you do the standard raise he may think his A more raggy than yours is good and you will fold (as he has seen me do the same raise with 87 soooted or anything at all that ive had in the past) if he pushs thinking hes prob good but hoping you fold then you snap call
Edited by Flippedchips (21 March 2011 @ 08:16 GMT)
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I agree with shokaku. In this situation with two small stacks behind, I guess its a raise and call if one of both pushes. Not to much chips to loose and in this situation high fold equity.
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This here is something I feel you gotta push hard. So that is my position anyways, all in isn't out of the question here. Would like to thank all who participate in these WSOP questions. I have a lot of fun reading all the comments you mobsters write. This is something I really enjoy posting, as I take part in these questions before I bring them here. Thanks again Mobsters, you rock..
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If only the small blind and big blind are behind you, you should put them all-in. You ideally want a fold. At first I thought raise to 2K but that's asking for a reraise which must be called so you lose fold equity. So I agree with shokaku.
I started by saying 'if' cos I don't know what position puck means. Never heard that before but I guess it means the button. What's with the odd names for positions in these threads. Puck? Hi-jack? Wtf? I'm used to CO, UTG then CO-1 etc
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Posted by awood88: If only the small blind and big blind are behind you, you should put them all-in. You ideally want a fold. At first I thought raise to 2K but that's asking for a reraise which must be called so you lose fold equity. So I agree with shokaku.
I started by saying 'if' cos I don't know what position puck means. Never heard that before but I guess it means the button. What's with the odd names for positions in these threads. Puck? Hi-jack? Wtf? I'm used to CO, UTG then CO-1 etc
CO-1 is hijack, if i'm not mistaken, i think thisone is pretty commonly used, although i haven't heard the puck before either.
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Chose raise / call any re-raise. Would have to see what flop brings. Enjoy your WSOP questions and hope you continue to post them. Good Luck and Good Day to All!
Also, what is meaning of "Puck"? appreciate the learn!
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In my very poker immature opinion, aside from calling everyone but the dealer a doo-doo head, the correct action would be to treat this situation as you would if you were the short-stack and raise the blind by just under 3x, mucking to a re-raise. The fact that your raising UTG, a little short, and still on the weak-side of cashing should earn a spot in the muck for all marginal hands, a call from short/made hands and might encourage slow-play from Big Richard. If a larger stack re-raises, my action would actually save chips over more grandiose commitments, and also earn a little more hesitation from the other hands. Hopefully, this will help ensure another entry on the tax-man's roster. Or not
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I voted all-in. Curious as to the proper answer, but I think one should push the blinds in this spot. The chances that they have you beat already are slim. If they call, you should KO them and have more chips. If you end up losing the hand, it doesn't kill ya.
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Posted by yotalover: I voted all-in. Curious as to the proper answer, but I think one should push the blinds in this spot. The chances that they have you beat already are slim. If they call, you should KO them and have more chips. If you end up losing the hand, it doesn't kill ya.
So what's the "correct" play?
Like the questions, keep em coming
Unfortunately the WSOP doesn't usually give those type of questions. What I mean is, they don't give you correct answers. Sometimes they do, but not regularly. These questions they do are for participation purposes. Glad you all like doing these. I really like reading all the comments.
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It definately gives you alot of insight to the average poker player's mind these questions. WSOP should have most common answer's to them or something though. From the looks of the forum though, a lot of people would play it the same way, so that's good i think.
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I would raise but fold any re-raise. This can look dumb, but, it always depend. My raise would be a tri-bet. Being first to move in, a call wouldnt mean a thing, i would almost always took a raise. So, if i raise first, i would garantee the dispute of the pot with only one of them. 4k guy would only go with very nice game, making an effort to reach prizes. 7k dont want to compromise the game also. I think this would be the best decision.
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yeah, that´s my opinion too. You gotta raise here and play the standard contibet stuff.
but taking the risk by blinds of 800 with a stack of 24k, dont think this is necessary. So if you get a reraise, mostly you wont even get a flip i guess so close to the bubble. So raise / fold
if you just go all in the bigger stack may fold an A8,A9,KQ or KJ if you do the standard raise he may think his A more raggy than yours is good and you will fold (as he has seen me do the same raise with 87 soooted or anything at all that ive had in the past) if he pushs thinking hes prob good but hoping you fold then you snap call 
