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Full Tilt Poker Game #29349403965: $1 + $0.20 Sit & Go (228263607), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 01:45:12 ET - 2011/03/26
Seat 1: lezka777 (1,295)
Seat 3: jamalstitch (1,245)
Seat 4: blubandit (3,190)
Seat 6: djonkusak (2,330)
Seat 7: flavorflav86 (2,185)
Seat 8: hoodi420 (1,755)
Seat 9: Morchieee (1,500)
hoodi420 posts the small blind of 30
Morchieee posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hoodi420 [As Ad]
lezka777 folds
jamalstitch folds
blubandit folds
djonkusak folds
flavorflav86 folds
hoodi420 raises to 120
Morchieee calls 60
*** FLOP *** [6s Ah Ac]
hoodi420 checks
Morchieee checks
*** TURN *** [6s Ah Ac] 5 of hearts
hoodi420 checks
Morchieee checks
*** RIVER *** [6s Ah Ac 5h] 9 of spades
hoodi420 bets 60
Morchieee folds
Uncalled bet of 60 returned to hoodi420
hoodi420 shows [As Ad] four of a kind, Aces
hoodi420 wins the pot (240)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 240 | Rake 0
Board: [6s Ah Ac 5h 9s]
Seat 1: lezka777 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: jamalstitch didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: blubandit didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: djonkusak didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: flavorflav86 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: hoodi420 (small blind) collected (240)
Seat 9: Morchieee (big blind) folded on the River

     
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lol whats that even mean Confused Confused Confused

     
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Crippling the deck, means floping such a monster hand that your opponent cannot even catch enough to pay you off, your only hope is a kamikaze bluff by said opponent. Cool

     
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If he has nothing, he has nothing. Don't know the style of your opponent, but maybe a c-bet on the flop would have been better.

     
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Posted by shokaku:
If he has nothing, he has nothing. Don't know the style of your opponent, but maybe a c-bet on the flop would have been better.

I thought about this, but unfourtunately I was at a pretty solid table I don't think I could've gotten any more than the min raise pre flop, I had really wanted the guy on the button to call but he folded for the first time in 10 hands! Aww crap!

     
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Posted by hoodi420:
I had really wanted the guy on the button to call but he folded for the first time in 10 hands! Aww crap!

He can dodge bullets, baby.
Big Smile

     
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Posted by shokaku:
Posted by hoodi420:
I had really wanted the guy on the button to call but he folded for the first time in 10 hands! Aww crap!

He can dodge bullets, baby.
Big Smile

Buawhahaha

     
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You should have bet the flop or turn.
Depending on opponent and your image at the table you could get the money out of him.

The bet should be like your bluffing - very quick shove or very smooth, small bet - depending on your image - again.

If not - it's not worth playing Smile

I played freeroll on FT yesterday. It was a ticket freeroll so I guess ppl don't get it seriusly - actually after 3h i aslo didn't as I can't play today anyway. So I played this freeroll and floped flush with A high on my hand... so I played "stop and go"... wait a long enough and put just a small bet... turn the same... at the river (don't renember cards) I re-raised and the opponent went actually all-in Big Smile

I know he was just a donk, but this is how you play it... Feel the opponent, what makes him bet, what makes him call, if you can bluff... I get planty on chips by beting as high as pot, when opponents thought it's a bluff becouse I usually bet 1/2 pot with strong hand.

Sometimes - just change your style.

     
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Posted by Delrix:
You should have bet the flop or turn.
Depending on opponent and your image at the table you could get the money out of him.

The bet should be like your bluffing - very quick shove or very smooth, small bet - depending on your image - again.
Good sound advice. Though my table image was super super tight, which is why I was fairly surprised he even called the pre flop raise!
If not - it's not worth playing Smile

I played freeroll on FT yesterday. It was a ticket freeroll so I guess ppl don't get it seriusly - actually after 3h i aslo didn't as I can't play today anyway. So I played this freeroll and floped flush with A high on my hand... so I played "stop and go"... wait a long enough and put just a small bet... turn the same... at the river (don't renember cards) I re-raised and the opponent went actually all-in Big Smile

I know he was just a donk, but this is how you play it... Feel the opponent, what makes him bet, what makes him call, if you can bluff... I get planty on chips by beting as high as pot, when opponents thought it's a bluff becouse I usually bet 1/2 pot with strong hand.

Sometimes - just change your style.



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Who would give me a thumbs down on this post?? Mobster

     
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this is why I basically never limp aces when the blinds are that low.. there's just no reason for your opponent to give any action on such a tiny pot unless he's a moron.. If you put in a decent raise - it's probably a fold most times - but at least when it isn't you open up the possibility of your opponent trying moves etc to take down a more reasonable pot..

Most it just sucks getting a monster pre or post when you're on the first couple blind levels.. always hard to get paid unless you lucky and get one of the early donkeys to double up from.

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this is why I basically never limp aces when the blinds are that low.. there's just no reason for your opponent to give any action on such a tiny pot unless he's a moron.. If you put in a decent raise - it's probably a fold most times - but at least when it isn't you open up the possibility of your opponent trying moves etc to take down a more reasonable pot..

Most it just sucks getting a monster pre or post when you're on the first couple blind levels.. always hard to get paid unless you lucky and get one of the early donkeys to double up from.

     
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Yep first give your hand a real raise, second..any one holding A here would check...so bet! most of the time (image dependig) it looks like your just going for a steel and lets the villan make a wrong move or just fold either way you win, doing nothing results in....nothing!

     
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Posted by hoodi420:



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Who would give me a thumbs down on this post?? Mobster


i give you thumb up so you get squared
Big Smile Thumbs Up

     
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Yes I played omaha for 3days Big Smile and had situation when I have KK55 and flops comes something like
this K55 .. and then u try to slow play and other s**t but nothing helps;]

     
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WOW, nice hand hoodi. I am not sure, but I think I would have slow played and bet the min on the flop. Like you said, he folded 1st time in 10 hands. Maybe a small raise preflop, he might have called just to see the flop. Who knows really. Nice quads though, I haven't got quads in a while..

     
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Posted by B1gfoot:
Yep first give your hand a real raise, second..any one holding A here would check...so bet! most of the time (image dependig) it looks like your just going for a steel and lets the villan make a wrong move or just fold either way you win, doing nothing results in....nothing!

That was my thinking too Bigfoot, to check after raising strongly suggests you hit. Maybe a small bet would have fooled him but who knows. Sometimes you have an amazing hand and nobody bites. Sad

     
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I must agree, better u made a bet on the flop, that would make him
believe ur not holding an A. Other wise u can only hope he hits something and
starts betting. Cool

     
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Guess I'm confused! Are you saying everyone folded due to no A's being dealt out and the flop showing A's with no face cards to allow anyone else to make bets. That's why this is called crippling the deck? I know today I held AcAs and on BB and flop then was min raised prior to flop. Flop was 10,A,A and he just kept raising so just let him lead and felt bad taking all his chips, but he was playing Allin on several hands prior. Pizzed him off. I did put a thread on this! Well enough! Good Luck to All!

     
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well another monster not getting any payout.
But you just need to bet the flop for any reasons.
He might not give you an Ace so he might draw a little with KQ or he thinks his pair of 4 are good here. On the river he of course folds them both.

     
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Posted by mrnugger:
Posted by hoodi420:



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Who would give me a thumbs down on this post?? Mobster


i give you thumb up so you get squared
Big Smile Thumbs Up

Thanks Nugger! Big Smile

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Posted by mahdrof:
Posted by B1gfoot:
Yep first give your hand a real raise, second..any one holding A here would check...so bet! most of the time (image dependig) it looks like your just going for a steel and lets the villan make a wrong move or just fold either way you win, doing nothing results in....nothing!

That was my thinking too Bigfoot, to check after raising strongly suggests you hit. Maybe a small bet would have fooled him but who knows. Sometimes you have an amazing hand and nobody bites. Sad

Guys, I hadn't played a hand most of the tourney, and everyone folded to the blinds, I did min-raise from the SB, maybe a c-bet on the flops gets action, but prolly not. I still think my best bet was to check it down and let him catch something to bluff with.(IMHO) Thanks for all the input Mobsters! Cool

     
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This is quite an interesting topic.

Suppose one hits a total monster like quads on the flop. The table knows one as a somewhat tight player. Is there any way one could, every now and then, get the other players chips in? Some little trick that might work, but maybe only once? Mindgame?

I once got quad nines on the flop and managed to get the opponent all in on the river, but that was because he had AA and got a third A on the turn. That is not very easy to orchestrate every time.

     
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Posted by Pjot:
This is quite an interesting topic.

Suppose one hits a total monster like quads on the flop. The table knows one as a somewhat tight player. Is there any way one could, every now and then, get the other players chips in? Some little trick that might work, but maybe only once? Mindgame?

I once got quad nines on the flop and managed to get the opponent all in on the river, but that was because he had AA and got a third A on the turn. That is not very easy to orchestrate every time.

I was so hoping he made a straight or something on the river, maybe next time. Big Smile

     
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