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Never said that exclusively russians do that dawka. Ive mentioned that about romanians too in a past thread. But the thing is due to your population and thus poker players you overcome anyone else in this field. And tell me if you find a single freeroll table in FT without 1 russian
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i'd been played once that still in my mind.. how i beat them.. they keep talking in those words & i asked them to stop or i would report to either BRM or FT. Once they stopped I played with AQ. Flopped 6 7 Q. then 1 of them wrote.. river? i took a long breath & put all in & they all resigned. should I just call & the river was 8 or 9.. & they all in.. would u call? when u know that they'll play with any cards?? & that is the main problem.. they can play with each other!!!
u know what is your problem? AT LEAST IN ALL MTtournaments
is top pair top kicker a good hand?
wanna me to show u the BSS chart which gives advises? two pairs at least on a freeroll, or an OESD flopped. and pot control...all BRM overplay AQ AK AJ AT not only russians.
time from time the list of notes of those donks grow up, so someday i'll finally know who plays well...
67Q flop and u just get top pair top kicker...tell me, mister, HAVE u ever heard about wet and dry boards? OESD_Flush_Draw etc
all beginners and +-0 regulars just do not know that the top pair top kicker is not enough to play on stack.
wanna me to give u a video that learn how to fold EVEN AA on o flop like 7 8s 9s?
i'd like to play connectors vs misters A7+ -AK cause they just overplay their overcards.
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Your perfect AQ vs 67 with backdoorflushdraw + two pairs flopped
wanna know one thing? on the final table i HAD TO protect blind by cold-calling the aggressor's bet...he showed A9 on the river, i showed 26offsuited, but they had 2 pairs flopped and no ace no nine flop-turn-river. thats how i got heads up with the chipleader after for a 1st place in BRM freeroll 25$.
------------ BTW i remembered the phrase 'river' it means that all my AA KK QQ JJ TT was beaten vs lowest pocket cards on a river...like flush, using one his hole card whole through the 2-3-4-5 cards on the table and the same with straight.
preflop all in AA vs 4Joffsuit, opponent got his str8 Jhigh on the river...
teach me, mister, show me +EV actions on a FREEROLL and continue calling us dumbs...
have just pushed out 2 gamblers who plays Q2s and J5o
and by the way...u think they're RUSIIANS?
GET OFF THEY ARE CANADIAN AND ARGENTINIAN
so. maybe you'll just stop calling all the russians donks?
as we all want to make money showing our skills, most of them try this tooo...
u really need to think a lot on a freeroll and to make right decision there, cause win only HIGHEST combination.
example:
799 flop u got 77...slowplay? all-in? cbet flop push turn? A9 J9 Q9 caller? outs for A K Q J going on the turn river? or the situation i saw only twice. fullhouse flopped vs 4of kind. even though u can lost with that fullhouse flopped, but it's not so often thanks god...
------------ one more hand that shows how u perfect play AQ and AJ and all the other sh*t... almost the same flop
top pair mid-high kicker is the most winning hand? u sure?!
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thanks 4 the clarification.. i just felt that i f i play on until river.. i'll lose.. they do it so many times.. & the issue here is not the game.. its how they talk among themself.. not fair to other players, & my instinct was right after they wrote in English! Didn't u read from the very beginning?
I just talked about what 'river' mean in our minds. that when you got AA on a tourney and an aggressive moron the 2nd chipleader on the table, he'll 90% beat them sometimes. on a backdoor flush, on whatever else... maybe i had KK those hand with 6 7 Q, but the river means that unknown opponent would call with Q6 offsuit and will easy beat your KK. or just with A9 offsuit and the river ace would beat me.
we all russians become impulsive a lot, than our hands get perfectly sucked out with a trash and it is very often happens on a river with the chances 75/25 81/19 even 95/5. i wrote lots of examples below. okay one more for you. someone perform steal and i got JJ. i protect all in cause of my M is about 7-8 and this is push fold period in a tourney. flop J 7 6 turn 9 river T
Hero shows three of kind Jacks Monkey-donk-moron shows A8 offsuited and win with a straight, Jhigh
be sure mister, russians do not make solid plans of teamworking for three hours to win 5 bucks...we all just complaining about bad beats and morons. yes, maybe it looks awful, but ppl from other nations sometimes just do not care about their mathematics of poker. they play Ahigh and Khigh and use their luck. we're just interested why our right way of play meet the impressive luck of others...
i'd always try to play my best poker, but some sh*t happens. the dispersion of a MTT and even a freeroll is very high. and the premium hands just come in 1/220 hands.
on a 220 hand in a BRM u'll have about 700 chips maybe.
have to play a bit loose, but trying to not overestimate my cards and play postflop good.
still do not find perfect way to win that stupid donks with theor any hand all in and bluff potbets on all the streets, but one day, i'll find.
do not make our nation as an any russian is an aggressive donk.
btw our comrades won couple of SCOOP tourneys with a 72k$-256k$ results.
not only a poker-pros, even just simple users of a russian community.
in common -
-bad and good players are appear in every nation and when you loose with a hand like AK AQ think a lot about maybe u overplay them. maybe it's a very drawwy board. there's one opinion about AK - this is a trash until the normal dry board -and our emotions are very high so we sometimes complain to each other in a chat.
on a partypoker my chat is always in a silent mode without any speech inside, it very annoys, complains in every language
------------ EXAMPLE 4 - A MIN-RAISE AFTER YOU Limit NL 2 $0.01/$0.02 (big blind = $0.02) Your hand A8s
Position BU (Button, late position) Situation You are on the Button, meaning you are the dealer. Everyone before you folds. The Starting Hands Chart says to raise. You raise to $0.08, but the player in the Big Blind doesn't want to play along and raises to $0.16.
In this example you are confronted with a min-raise. Normally you would just fold A8s when someone raises after you, but the rules say you should always call when an opponent min-raises after you.
Take a look at the flop. You have position on your opponent, and your hand isn't all that bad. Just don't play for a big pot if all you hit is a pair of aces or eights.
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you don't have to be raisist, if you are good in the end, you will rise up. Anyway is anoing to lose with biger cards, nd the oponent to have a lot of luck. Play poker and leave the crap.
------------ you don't have to be raisist, if you are good in the end, you will rise up. Anyway is anoing to lose with biger cards, nd the oponent to have a lot of luck. Play poker and leave the crap.
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Every poker site has russians on there every freeroll game, and they act like complete donks allin every single hand,even when it states on pokerstars that english is the language on the table they and others speak their own and when you try to pull them up all you get is abuse whats the point in playing these collussion is the name of the game.
Posted by southygirl: Every poker site has russians on there every freeroll game
Of course, there are 142 ml of us. Plus Ukrainians and Byelorussians who are still considered by western people as Russians. There are 62 ml in UK. I can bet that you are represented in poker games proportionally to your population. And this proportion is the same as with Russians.
Posted by southygirl: and they act like complete donks allin every single hand
Seriously, guys, considering the value of today's free-rolls I tend to think that going all-in with ATC is the only reasonable strategy. Dawka2425 posted above the screenshot of his free-roll win. 5+ USD for the first place!!! Jesus, what a joke!!! It is just plain counterproductive to strain your brain for three hours trying to play sophisticated poker for this kind of prize. With free-rolls of such value you will never get the simulation of REAL POKER. Even if all Russians disappear from the tables, there will be other players playing this way. And you start to complain about some other nation.
If you want to play poker with skill involved, go to real money tables and stop crippling your game style. Once you hit real money tables, you will see that Russians (and Ukrainians, and Romanian) play and behave differently.
Who played this tournament would easily told you, that MORON players were not here. only solid and tight and thinking opponents. each chip made ppl closer to 215$ 1st place prize...
Who played this tournament would easily told you, that MORON players were not here. only solid and tight and thinking opponents. each chip made ppl closer to 215$ 1st place prize...
So what? Russians are all donks whatever?!
lol i really dont giva s**t if russians are donks or not.... in a above post u say canadians are the donks! how is that any differnt from us saying russians are?. i now dont believe your donks, just sukes...someone give this guy a baby suther
"have just pushed out 2 gamblers who plays Q2s and J5o
and by the way...u think they're RUSIIANS?
GET OFF THEY ARE CANADIAN AND ARGENTINIAN"
where's the guilt of a WHOLE NATION CANADIANS m? did i write it? i just gave u facts.
wanna flame a naci-war here? in a forum of ppl trying to learn how to play poker? u say we sucks? SO I SEE, NO TOLERANCE EXPECTING VALUE nice, keep it on, ****
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Posted by dawka2425: read carefully man
"have just pushed out 2 gamblers who plays Q2s and J5o
and by the way...u think they're RUSIIANS?
GET OFF THEY ARE CANADIAN AND ARGENTINIAN"
where's the guilt of a WHOLE NATION CANADIANS m? did i write it? i just gave u facts.
wanna flame a naci-war here? in a forum of ppl trying to learn how to play poker? u say we sucks? SO I SEE, NO TOLERANCE EXPECTING VALUE nice, keep it on, ****
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@dawka2425 - I suppose you gonna advocate your compatriots by all means... though perhaps you're solid player (Russian), who very well understand what poker is. Apart from chargeable MTTs, where the number of donks (disregarding nations) is much more lower, I often play BRM Leaderboard freerolls on FTP as well. And I guess, this thread is exactly related to Russians playing there, right...? @dawka2425 - do you play these BRM freerolls on FTP...? If not, pls go in there and find out something the hard way. Believe me, here we have a real Russian donkfest (including Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan etc.) and you can see that this is not only my opinion, but general. They form that opinion by the way they play poker, which has nothing to do with any strategy or tactic, as bingo-poker is easy game and needs only pure luck... Bull shiits..? So, why they're putting all-in every other hand with crap or, if they're already in a pot - they can never find the fold button and will call you until river, doesn't matter what possition and outs they have... Yes, sometimes I'm getting very tired with "Russians" (especially, when got stupid brain-dead bad-beats), but I think I learned to play against such donks... so even it's really hard, I won the LB in March and currently I'm also in the top standing.
BTW: Besides, why they permanently use russian language on chat while only english is allowed...? They of course intentionally abuse chat rules, however, I can understand what they say in russian and believe me - sometimes it's profanity and bad language...
236606486 May 18, 21:01 ET Facebook FreerollFreeroll 1,070 54 $0.10 236022426 May 18, 19:31 ET BankrollMob $25 Freeroll Freeroll 673 48 $0.07 236016243 May 15, 03:01 ET BankrollMob $25 Freeroll Freeroll 555 13 $0.21 236021254 May 14, 16:31 ET BankrollMob $25 Freeroll Freeroll 1,074 36 $0.08
i play them reguarly but have a bit less luck in a push-fold stage, so i only once was on the final table and won there 1st place. even qualified for a 1k$ freeroll, but was 55/200 there KJ<AJ )
this is an offtopic about me and my views on these freerolls. as i regularly see ppl there really represents a donkfest, but... i do not look on the nation to make my decision about call or not the donky all-in. yes, maybe strong russians just appear on BRM freeroll in a very small percentage, but the other hand. i saw donks from every country and mention ppl who overplay their cards.
answer to the BTW: if it's not written with a big red symbols that your account will be banned permanently, ppl will always use non-english. yep, maybe russians do this more often.
last freeroll i was emotianally phucked on my KK vs AK and AK wins, so i just closed the table and wrote '*****'! why we need to complain in english if we could complain in russian)
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suuka, oh sorry i was following your advice, please go check my thread i posted about russians, i have found out why they are so abundant in our tournaments! DOS VEDANYA RUSKIES!!
and now read this all the way from the firts post and think about our discussion without stupid "suuka" and other words. okay, MATE? your opinion+facts.
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stop talking donk, when i saw you said its the canadians i laughed, IT IS RUSSIANS AND AUSSIES WHO PLAY ANY CARD AND HOPE THEY HIT THE FLOP, THEN THEY CHASE WILD DRAWS WITHOUT POT ODDS AND SOMEHOW HAVE A HORSESHOE WIT EM, GET OFF CANADAS D**K.
there are minimal russian players who know how to play, its why you all frequent the freerolls and never build a god damn bankroll.
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donks never do get it, its why they rely on draws, maybe you need to stick your national pride up your ass and realize 9/10 russians dont know how to play compared to one canadian out of 50
whats the point in playing these collussion is the name of the game.
though perhaps you're solid player (Russian), who very well understand what 
