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rockets UTG vs a tight table is difficult.
Depends on the blinds, you can always try open shoving - the beauty of this is, you'll only ever get your chips in good like this. Problem with a standard raise - is that if its a tight table then people are generally giving respect to an UTG raise in which case they probably put you on AK/AA/KK and they'll call your bet with 78s J10s, 55, 66 etc (ie; small pockets pairs and suited connectors) and once you hit the flop the only action you'll get is from better hands. So as the old adage goes - you'll either win a small pot or lose a big one.
However - if you shove UTG - people misread it - surely NO ONE PLAYS ACES LIKE THIS ! and they call you with AK, QQ, KK(obv) etc..Sometimes even medium pp and A10,AJ depending on the table..
Obviously the other option is limping and hoping somebody else raises so you can re-pop them. However, personally I think this is a very poor option against a tight table; most likely half the table will be priced in to limp also and you'll end up with a tiny pot and about 6 callers lol.
Yep same here i would defo shove as i have had some bad beats slow playing aces in the past just like everyone. Although there not really a right or wrong way is there you do a small bet get called and the caller gets lucky and hits 2 pair a set or whatever and they go your own fault you slow played the aces you were asking for it, or the other way you go allin and take the blinds and any callers down they say if you slow played you would have been paid off etc.
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as jess says its a tricky one and i never limp with them it is just asking to lose too crap, if im sitting with a bunch of nits i will often play a little crazy let them catch you on little bluffs but dont let it hurt your stack over all but doing this people will start to call your raises light and when you get monsters like As Ks you get paid off nice and thats when you take them to value town. Doing this on a full ring table is a little more tricky all the same 6 handed is better. Also if i sit down and everyone at the table are nits i just leave the table as it is so fecking boring playing with nits
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Posted by Flippedchips: Also if i sit down and everyone at the table are nits i just leave the table as it is so fecking boring playing with nits
LOL - reading this made me realise- my advice to open-shove is for MTT - not ring lol. Don't open shove AA in a ring game. IMHO - AA/KK is a lot more valuable in MTT - assuming you're playing ring properly you should be at LEAST 100bb deep which means play is a lot more creative.. MTT you often sit around 20-50bb and a hand like AA or KK is often a very good chance to double up.
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Posted by zlimper: how do you bet your ROCKETS UTG position?when you know players on the table are tight.help me pls
If they are tight I will bet anyway before I give free cards to small pairs or the BB. If they are loose and aggressive I may start beeing tricky as I know someoe with a weaker hand may raise and I will get a second chance to play a reraise. But mostly that is a way to tell your opponent you have a strong hand.
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If it is a tight table, I would make a very small raise to rail some of the other opponents, because if you play the aces aggressive then the other players will fold their hand because they playing like rocks. If it is a loose table then play the aces aggressively go all-in.
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Of course you also need to consider the type of players that are on the table but experience tell me that i should not go all in preflop with pocket aces. Of course pocket aces is prob the best hand to go all in. For me pocket kings are not so good considering that if you have a fish or more at the table i can assure you from experience that they'll go all in with A and any other hand, to be more precise it seems they enjoy going all in with A7, i actually i lost a hand with pocket kings, all in pre flop, got paid by a fish with A-7, he got the A on the turn unfortunately. He was short handed, he doubled the amount to a full buy -in next hand, i raised with pocket eights and got the set on the flop, shove it all in, he also paid with top pair(queen) and so i got my money back plus his own money. He didn't rebuy on that table.
