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  8-May-11, 13:50   #1
Check out the ups and downs of poker rooms after Black Friday 0 
Reiiz 
Joined: Feb '11
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While some have been hurt by recent epidódio in which the U.S. authorities blocked the biggest poker site in the world in soil estadounidense, many took advantage of the situation.



While the blocked sites - PokerStars, FullTilt, Absolute Poker and UB - had a significant drop in users, some other sites had increased movement at their desks.



Check out how is the situation:



• Full Tilt Poker - 48%

• Ultimate / Absolute - 39%

• PokerStars - 25%

Bwin Poker / Party Poker: + 29.62%

• Bodog: + 25%

PKR: + 21%

888 Poker: + 14.39%

• Cake Network / Rox Poker: + 19%

• Merge Network: + 23%

• iPoker Network: + 4%



The FullTilt were hit the hardest, the movement in its cash game tables fell 50%. Good for competitors, and Bodog Poker bwin / Party were the sites most took advantage of the situation, since the movement in the rooms increased by 25% and 29% respectively.



Some other sites that have not been met, are already advancing to the authorities, and blocking the United States ethnic players, such as the Victory Poker, which sponsors the player Antonio Esfandiari the Magician and the former Playboy coelinha Sarah Jean Underwood. The website stated that it "wants to get in the way the U.S. government, which for some reason are chasing the" Big 3 ".

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  8-May-11, 13:58   #2
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shokaku 

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It was clear that the three rooms would suffer, and other poker rooms that offer games for the US would increase their player base. I am a bit surprised about the rise in the traffic for Bwin/Party and PKR.

     
  8-May-11, 14:56   #3
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JazzyJeff 
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There was a thread allready with these stats about 2 1/2 weeks ago.
So there outdated and probably a bit differen't now.

     
  8-May-11, 15:15   #4
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Macubaas 
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I'm surprised to find out that Abolute poker/ultimate bet only had such a low drop in poker traffic considering the fact that it seems bankruptcy is on their door step. Probably this survey was done before the news that the two US poker platform will close eventually.
On the other hand i think pokerstars comed out nicely out of this situation considering they already started to pay back the united states players that had money in they pokerstars accounts. This survey shows full tilt poker had a poker traffic decrease of almost 50% but personally i don't think the percentage is too accurate. Before the black friday the number of players were around 90k and now there is around 70k players on average, so the poker traffic decrease can't be 50%, i think it's way less than that.
For me the biggest winners in terms of traffic were Party Poker and Bodog. Some people also moved their bankroll to ipoker network.

     
  8-May-11, 15:19   #5
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JazzyJeff 
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Posted by Macubaas:
I'm surprised to find out that Abolute poker/ultimate bet only had such a low drop in poker traffic considering the fact that it seems bankruptcy is on their door step. Probably this survey was done before the news that the two US poker platform will close eventually.
On the other hand i think pokerstars comed out nicely out of this situation considering they already started to pay back the united states players that had money in they pokerstars accounts. This survey shows full tilt poker had a poker traffic decrease of almost 50% but personally i don't think the percentage is too accurate. Before the black friday the number of players were around 90k and now there is around 70k players on average, so the poker traffic decrease can't be 50%, i think it's way less than that.
For me the biggest winners in terms of traffic were Party Poker and Bodog. Some people also moved their bankroll to ipoker network.


Do you read other posts?? These stats are old, they are from a couple of days after
Black Friday.

     
  8-May-11, 15:23   #6
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Arithmajik 

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I'm always surprised that the ipoker network only has such a slight bump. They have a few bigs names on there and Titan and Party both run promo all the time.

Can anyone speculate as to why they were unable capture a larger chunk of the market share after the falling out. Party does tons of advertising, I would've expected them to have taken lots.

?

     
  8-May-11, 15:33   #7
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Macubaas 
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There are actually alot of reasons for that, there aren't really any major things that make you to stay away from the ipoker network, but there are many small reasons that make you stay away.
First reason is the fact that both titan poker and party poker have a few players considered to other poker sites like pokerstars or full tilt poker. For example on party poker there are around 10.000 players all the time, compared to 75.000 and 100.000 on pokerstars. This is bad for grinders at specific stakes as they prefer to play against fish players, not against other regulars at that stakes.
Secondly all ipoker network sites have high limits for specific games or games type, for example at PLO the lowest stake is PLO25 and for HU SNG is 6 dollars.
As strong points there is the software(less bad beats) and the fact that are a bit more profitable than other bigger sites.

     
  8-May-11, 15:43   #8
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hoodi420 

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This is an interesting thread. I myself am still reeling from the fallout of Black Friday, it saddens me to lose one of the games I love the most. I myself will not play poker on anyother website but FullTilt or PokerStars, less players, smaller prize pools, probably not as good of security......... I'm just not a big fan of branching out. Plus if they got the big 3, how much longer until they take out the rest of the little guys? I'd just as soon not waste my money,time or effort. On a posotive note, this has given me plenty of time to work on my live game. I run a bi-weekly poker game at my apt, and there are several Casino's close to home, some of which also run WSOP sattelites. I look forward to the day I will once again be able to grind it out from the comfort of my own couch,in my undies, eating cheetos, and smoking a bong.....Until then though GL in your electronic endeavor's Mobster's, maybe we will meet face to face on the felt someday! Cool

     
  8-May-11, 15:55   #9
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Arithmajik 

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Thanks for that clarification guys. I guess I can see how that makes sense, I didn't realize it because I'm still such a small fish. Right now I'm lovin' the ipoker network, the DoN's are profitable for me.

Hoodi, you gotta get some Reese Puffs or Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

Macubaas, what did you mean about less bad beats?

Thanks again.

     
  8-May-11, 16:19   #10
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Reiiz 
Joined: Feb '11
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Hi guy's

Thanks for the feedback Thumbs Up

After 3 weeks the traffic has undergone some changes.

Check out the new changes: click on image follow:

We are looking forward to new changes



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Posted by JazzyJeff:
Posted by Macubaas:
I'm surprised to find out that Abolute poker/ultimate bet only had such a low drop in poker traffic considering the fact that it seems bankruptcy is on their door step. Probably this survey was done before the news that the two US poker platform will close eventually.
On the other hand i think pokerstars comed out nicely out of this situation considering they already started to pay back the united states players that had money in they pokerstars accounts. This survey shows full tilt poker had a poker traffic decrease of almost 50% but personally i don't think the percentage is too accurate. Before the black friday the number of players were around 90k and now there is around 70k players on average, so the poker traffic decrease can't be 50%, i think it's way less than that.
For me the biggest winners in terms of traffic were Party Poker and Bodog. Some people also moved their bankroll to ipoker network.


Do you read other posts?? These stats are old, they are from a couple of days after
Black Friday.

Updated Thumbs Up

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  8-May-11, 16:42   #11
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Flippedchips 

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Posted by Macubaas:

As strong points there is the software(less bad beats) and the fact that are a bit more profitable than other bigger sites.


lol where did you find this information
Confused

     
  8-May-11, 20:02   #12
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Fiste 

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don't know where did you find these percenteges, but nice!! Smile

     
  8-May-11, 20:43   #13
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Reiiz 
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PokerScout Thumbs Up

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Posted by Fiste:
don't know where did you find these percenteges, but nice!! Smile

PokerScout Thumbs Up

     
  9-May-11, 00:40   #14
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JazzyJeff 
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Posted by Reiiz:
Hi guy's

Thanks for the feedback Thumbs Up

After 3 weeks the traffic has undergone some changes.

Check out the new changes: click on image follow:

We are looking forward to new changes



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Posted by JazzyJeff:


Do you read other posts?? These stats are old, they are from a couple of days after
Black Friday.

Updated Thumbs Up


Thx for the update, i was actually interested in how those numbers would develop
after i saw the first statistics, i allready thought that the big first loss by Ft would mellow
out a bit, stars stayed the same and its pretty clear who the big winner is: Merge!
I think there pretty happy over there with their 69% increase.
What is Pokerscout? Cool

     
  9-May-11, 01:03   #15
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Reiiz 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Portugal
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Hi JazzyJeff

Pokerscout is a site where you can inform you about online poker traffic and for exemple where american players can play.
Right now I can say the PokerScout is leading source of information about the online poker industry our online poker liquidity (traffic) rankings give a clear picture of the internet poker industry as a whole.
he results recorded in PokerScout.com show that Pokerstars has lost 26% of its traffic, Full Tilt has lost 38% of the traffic and the AP / UB inscriveis lost some 76% (as if speaking in the declaration of bankruptcy of the AP / UB).
What this created was an excellent opportunity for the Merge Network which is part of the Lock Poker. In these last three weeks since Black Friday Merge Network (very much from the Lock Poker) had a very considerable growth of around 70%.
With the rise of this position of the Merge Network, it was decided to make a change in policy rakeback. In the coming days Merge Network will announce the cancellation of rakeback to new players, and will adopt a point system for new players.

Tomorrow will put more information about this new change in policy Merge NetWork
I hope helped.

Regards
Spade Club Heart Diamond

Edited by Reiiz (09 May 2011 @ 01:09 GMT)


     
  9-May-11, 01:22   #16
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JazzyJeff 
Joined: Feb '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 818

Thx for the info, i haven't seen those statistics on other sites, so Pokerscout really
seems to be the leader in online poker info. I understand that with the increase
of players Merge has to chance there policy, they were very small compared to
the big guns. Keep updating, since black friday i'm suddenly very interested in
'poker politics'. Regards Cool

     
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