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I say site deals are manipulated as is allowed in gaming commission regulations. jessthehuman says he has proof its not but wont publish any data.

Does anyone have any long number probability test results to resolve this or other factual data of reflection of expected outcome. Aww crap!

     
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theres gotta be somthing out there on the net to end this dipute..have u googled it lol?

just googled "long number probability test poker" and this thread popped up lol Aww crap!

ill keep trying

     
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Theres gotta be somthing out there on the net to end this dipute..have u googled it lol?

just googled "long number probability test poker" and this thread popped up lol

ill keep trying

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theres a multi billion dollar industry that does want anything on google so it makes it hard to find. I have data showing my aces winning 86% which appears fine but upon examination must never saw a flop so % is to low. Full hand testing is needed

Edited by onlinejoke (24 May 2011 @ 22:13 GMT)


     
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Posted by onlinejoke:
jessthehuman says he has proof its not but wont publish any data.


O Rly?

Just to clarify my position: I believe the onus of proof is ALWAYS on the person making the wild claims/allegations. And I don't accept anecdotal evidence as proof. I will only accept empirical data. Luckily for onlinejoke; HH can provide the empirical data he requires. So either put up or shutup.

     
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Posted by onlinejoke:
jessthehumen verses onlinejoke

wow EPIC Worship Worship Worship

     
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lol i like how hes on your case jess when he wont show you any when its him with the problem ahaha all his proof is in the word FACT bla bla bla bla Big Smile Big Smile

     
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just FYI:

if you google "long number probability" (using the quotation marks) the ONLY 2 results google returns are BRM posts by 'joke.

     
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Poker Stars has a certification from a 3rd party for the RNG on their website. But i will NOT look deep into this report.

     
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ok onlinejoke lets have your FACTS (yeah the ones in capital)

first proof that - gaming comissions allow deal manipulation, esp the ones licensing the major poker rooms.

second proof that long number probability is the only true test of genuine deal and everything else is biased to a big extent.

third and most important proof that online poker sites ( esp the major rooms) do deal manipulation and rig the software in favor of some people.

so either post links proving all your theories or stfu and ffs stop creating multiple threads for same discussion.


     
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Just to clarify my position: I believe the onus of proof is ALWAYS on the person making the wild claims/allegations. And I don't accept anecdotal evidence as proof. I will only accept empirical data. Luckily for onlinejoke; HH can provide the empirical data he requires. So either put up or shutup.

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More bull and total avoidance of any data just as the entire online poker industry does. You must work or be paid by these guys to keep this propaganda up.

I have given facts and i will repeat some

1 3 in ten hands heads up should be won with a high card after the river , Try it
2 Gaming commissions allow on line poker to manipulate there deals read ther criteria
3 Not one test in the entire industry id done to show there deal reflects an un bias deal to probability.

Your turn Mr mouth print some facts not opinions or statistices that can say anything, FACTS

     
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Posted by SuperNoob:
second proof that long number probability is the only true test of genuine deal and everything else is biased to a big extent.


This might come back to bite me in the ass, although 5 minutes of "googln" suggests it won't. I would like to see proof that "long number probability" is even a real term.

     
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Noob

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Posted by onlinejoke:
jessthehumen verses onlinejoke

wow EPIC


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But jess provides not one shred of evidence in thousands of posts

wow EPIC

     
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Posted by onlinejoke:\
You must work or be paid by these guys to keep this propaganda up.


I get this a lot - I take it as a compliment.

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Posted by onlinejoke:
\But jess provides not one shred of evidence in thousands of posts


Evidence for what ? I'm not the one making the wild claims. We're ALL waiting on evidence from you bro.

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Posted by onlinejoke
1 3 in ten hands heads up should be won with a high card after the river , Try it
2 Gaming commissions allow on line poker to manipulate there deals read ther criteria
3 Not one test in the entire industry id done to show there deal reflects an un bias deal to probability.


1) A) 10 hands is NOT a suitable sample data to prove anything. B) As I've said in all your threads - I regularly play HU flips on PKR - they have lots of HU lotteries. I promise you high card wins plenty.
2) Citations needed (from you)
3) These sites are certified and their RNG code etc is certified. Once again citations needed (by you).

As I go along the line of believing the certification, etc - "propaganda line" as you would put it of the poker rooms, it is not my duty to provide evidence that the accepted truth is incorrect. If you want to tell me man didn't walk on the moon - I don't have to prove they did - you have to prove they didn't. You want to tell me God exists - I don't have to prove he doesn't.

Edited by jessthehuman (25 May 2011 @ 08:12 GMT)


     
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Flippedchips

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lol i like how hes on your case jess when he wont show you any when its him with the problem ahaha all his proof is in the word FACT bla bla bla bla

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I have published some facts yet jess shows none and again I will say why does an entire industry fail to publish any test results to prove deals are straight this would add credibility but no they all avoid proper testing.

Here is some proof of the false certification even jess can understand. Check out the link and explain how they certify a 97.5% pay out in poker at poker time.

If the deals were unbiased to probability why would sites need to use false certification like this

     
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You need to understand 'joke, you're basically asking me to go out of my way, do a tonne of research and work to prove or disprove your theory. I don't believe your theories, I have no vested interest in investigating them for you. Do you understand this yet ?

You need to clear your eyes a little.. I'm not having some debate with you, I am simply telling you I don't believe your conspiracy theory.

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Posted by onlinejoke:
Check out the link and explain how they certify a 97.5% pay out in poker at poker time.


I am guessing it relates to the rake.

     
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What do you mean 10 hands is not enough, Monitor 100 or 1000 or 10,000 then and check out this fraudulent certification for poker time.97.5% pay out lol isnt rake 5% and heads up thats 10% of your profit
http://www.ecogra.org/certificates/certificate.aspx?cid=7

now print you data or offer one grain of fact to support that never ending bull shittt you post.

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What do you mean 10 hands is not enough, Monitor 100 or 1000 or 10,000 then and check out this fraudulent certification for poker time.97.5% pay out lol isnt rake 5% and heads up thats 10% of your profit
http://www.ecogra.org/certificates/certificate.aspx?cid=7

now print you data or offer one grain of fact to support that never ending bull shittt you post.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

Edited by onlinejoke (25 May 2011 @ 08:22 GMT)


     
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Watch your language or your posts (and access to BRM) might disappear...
(and that applies to everyone)

     
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jess can you even spell or add up? Do you uderstand magins and horse shoes. Quick run to google
Check this link out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

     
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jess have even proof that they are aliens but the goverment are covering it up,
the truth is out there..................... Evil

     
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dozn01

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jess have even proof that they are aliens but the goverment are covering it up,
the truth is out there.....................

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was that age 31 or 13, It sounds like the reply of a 13 year old to me. I have published hard proof unlike that for alian life form though jess might qualify????

     
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