Posted by B1gfoot: I feel sorry for you old man, you have no shame, and I know by now you are aware of ow stupid you have been, no one is that thick. So I now come to the conclusion you are posting for some weird kick, enjoy being an a*****e you prick.
hey prick lets talk education do you have any??? lets talk poker have you clocked up any ranking points. Hey prick do you see any test results for these on line sites.
WHAT A PRICK
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Posted by jessthehuman: you need to leave here
YOU NEED TO SEE THE LIGHT FOOL
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Posted by Macubaas: Just talked with an old friend from another town yesterday that won a rush guar 16.000 dollars guaranteed tournament a week before full tilt poker went down, the prize was arounf 4000 dollars or so, and in couple of days he managed to win another 2000 dollars by playing rush poker cash games, on nl200 sh
This is the good part, and know i think you know the continuation, after full tilt was down he no longer has acces to his 7000 bankroll, he deposited 100 dollars on pokerstars and know he plays there at NL5....
This is just an example there are people that lost a lot more than that, so lets hope that at least players will be able to recover their bankrolls....
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Posted by onlinejoke:
Posted by B1gfoot: I feel sorry for you old man, you have no shame, and I know by now you are aware of ow stupid you have been, no one is that thick. So I now come to the conclusion you are posting for some weird kick, enjoy being an a*****e you prick.
hey prick lets talk education do you have any??? lets talk poker have you clocked up any ranking points. Hey prick do you see any test results for these on line sites.
WHAT A PRICK
i found "the book" onlinejoke wrote after completing his education..i also found his fan club at his book signing
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Wow, 2 lines, a comment on education, two new languages and in total 15 childlike errors (that I spotted), then again you are good at making things up.
Let me educate you old man.
Hey prick, let's talk about education, do you have any? Let's talk aboutpoker, have you clocked up any ranking points? Hey prick, do you see any test results for these on line sites?
I am starting to feel real sorry for you old man, you are pissing yourself in public.(That's a Metaphor)
As to answers, yes, yes and yes, kinda sounds like your lady when getting nailed by your neighbor.
@SuperNoob, nice to see a young jools holland, and that's a funky jamming session, never heard of Jeff Healey, loved it thanks.
Posted by B1gfoot: Wow, 2 lines, a comment on education, two new languages and in total 15 childlike errors (that I spotted), then again you are good at making things up.
Let me educate you old man.
Hey prick, let's talk about education, do you have any? Let's talk aboutpoker, have you clocked up any ranking points? Hey prick, do you see any test results for these on line sites?
I am starting to feel real sorry for you old man, you are pissing yourself in public.(That's a Metaphor)
As to answers, yes, yes and yes, kinda sounds like your lady when getting nailed by your neighbor.
@SuperNoob, nice to see a young jools holland, and that's a funky jamming session, never heard of Jeff Healey, loved it thanks.
Your are clearly an inferior poker player of inferior intelligence who banters on and says nothing. Where do you actually play your live poker that is if you can play live poker. Have you ever had any success??
Your quick to slag people off and as quick to avoid facts I guess your just another working class bum
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Posted by arsenej1:
Posted by onlinejoke:
Posted by B1gfoot: I feel sorry for you old man, you have no shame, and I know by now you are aware of ow stupid you have been, no one is that thick. So I now come to the conclusion you are posting for some weird kick, enjoy being an a*****e you prick.
hey prick lets talk education do you have any??? lets talk poker have you clocked up any ranking points. Hey prick do you see any test results for these on line sites.
WHAT A PRICK
i found "the book" onlinejoke wrote after completing his education..i also found his fan club at his book signing
Just get back to that rigged poker that allows idiots like you to draw a little dollar some times.LOts of bull s hit just like the poker sites. By the way all you guys had a good dig at me but not once has any one disputed the fact that on line poker does not one proper test of probable outcome, Interesting.
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@ onlinejoke
Let´s try something simple...
You love throwing around the term "IQ"...let´s have a look at that one.
After observing that it took 6 (yep...6) tries from jbrooksie to get a semblance of an answer to his question:"why do you play online Poker?", I was going to put you in the "comatose" category, and skip the IQ ranking alltogether. BUT...I see you can type letters (not really words or sentences, because there are too many spelling and grammatical mistakes). So that kind of excludes you from a comatose state.
This implies an active IQ of at least 1.
Now, moving on to the second "test", if you will, started by SuperNoob:
2 requests for an answer to : why you are here in an online Poker forum when you don´t play online?
After 2 brave attempts at an answer to that test, still no valid response.
So let´s try this again:
Below you will find the original question, accompanied by your various responses. Please read carefully, read again (as many times as necessary), and try to formulate a response that approximates an answer. (I will add, in order to avoid confusion, an answer "to the question posed"
While doing so, please refrain from trying to make sense of any more statistics in this thread, and sticking to the question at hand. (we need to learn to stand up before we can walk, right?)
Since we are aming at an IQ result higher than 1, there will be NO time restrictions on this question.
Ready?... Begin !
Posted by onlinejoke:
Posted by SuperNoob:
Posted by onlinejoke:
Posted by SuperNoob: this thread is getting interesting, i even folded 3 hands while reading btw mr joke after u managed to answer 1 simple question, lets try 1 more
why are you u here here in a forum when you dont play online poker? noone here is interested in what you say and noone believes you or is gonna believe you. you are just wasting your time and making a fool of yourself.
is it way beyond your comprehension ???
hope i dont have to repeat 6 times like jbrooskie to get an answer
I know,Head in the sand your all ostriches. If site deal were truly random dont you think at least one of them would test for LNP and dont you think thje regulators would close the loop hole that allows deal manipulation.
Looks like you were unable to understand what the question was here. My mistake, I overestimated your intelligence. Anyway I'm not gonna ask this again and create stress on ur 'brain'
You remind me of a manic gambler, they bury there heads in the sand and talk s hitt as a whole
Should the relevant question not be very clear to you, you may seek advice from someone in your immediate vicinity. But only in interpreting the question, and NO help formulating an answer, that would defeat the purpose.
You love throwing around the term "IQ"...let's have a look at that one.
After observing that it took 6 (yep...6) tries from jbrooksie to get a semblance of an answer to his question:"why do you play online Poker?", I was going to put you in the "comatose" category, and skip the IQ ranking alltogether. BUT...I see you can type letters (not really words or sentences, because there are too many spelling and grammatical mistakes). So that kind of excludes you from a comatose state.
This implies an active IQ of at least 1.
Now, moving on to the second "test", if you will, started by SuperNoob:
2 requests for an answer to : why you are here in an online Poker forum when you don't play online?
After 2 brave attempts at an answer to that test, still no valid response.
So let's try this again:
Below you will find the original question, accompanied by your various responses. Please read carefully, read again (as many times as necessary), and try to formulate a response that approximates an answer. (I will add, in order to avoid confusion, an answer "to the question posed"
While doing so, please refrain from trying to make sense of any more statistics in this thread, and sticking to the question at hand. (we need to learn to stand up before we can walk, right?)
Since we are aming at an IQ result higher than 1, there will be NO time restrictions on this question.
Ready?... Begin !
Posted by onlinejoke:
Posted by SuperNoob:
Posted by onlinejoke:
Posted by SuperNoob: this thread is getting interesting, i even folded 3 hands while reading btw mr joke after u managed to answer 1 simple question, lets try 1 more
why are you u here here in a forum when you dont play online poker? noone here is interested in what you say and noone believes you or is gonna believe you. you are just wasting your time and making a fool of yourself.
is it way beyond your comprehension ???
hope i dont have to repeat 6 times like jbrooskie to get an answer
I know,Head in the sand your all ostriches. If site deal were truly random dont you think at least one of them would test for LNP and dont you think thje regulators would close the loop hole that allows deal manipulation.
Looks like you were unable to understand what the question was here. My mistake, I overestimated your intelligence. Anyway I'm not gonna ask this again and create stress on ur 'brain'
You remind me of a manic gambler, they bury there heads in the sand and talk s hitt as a whole
Should the relevant question not be very clear to you, you may seek advice from someone in your immediate vicinity. But only in interpreting the question, and NO help formulating an answer, that would defeat the purpose.
Good Luck ! ...and I mean that sincerely...
That is by far the best most evasive answer I have had to date, Well done.
But back to the point?? Isn't it interesting how every single site avoids any proper test results( LNP) Only a site with some thing to hide would not comply with a simple request of tests for expected outcome if in fact they reflect this. UK and Maltese Gaming boards allow deal manipulation so why would a business not use this loop hole to increase there rake(profit) by creating situations of action randomly but above probability.
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You completely failed. Well done.
------------ oh by the way - no one is being evasive. We just think you are a complete joke. We are not engaging you "intellectually" because you're obviously a complete idiot.
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OMG ! Where to start?
1. It was NOT an answer to anything. 2. Seeing as to how you didn´t answer THE QUESTION at all, I´m stumped.
Please refer to the "hint" at the bottom of my reply: "Should the relevant question not be very clear to you, you may seek advice from someone in your immediate vicinity. But only in interpreting the question, and NO help formulating an answer, that would defeat the purpose."
Want to give it another go?
Supplemental hint: The answer could be a short sentence with as little as 4-5 words.
Attempt #4 after 3 failed attempts: (let´s try to beat the last one at 6 responses)
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@IslandJack
You're aiming to high trying to measure with IQ, you should be using EQ (Evolutionary Quotient). This is where a humans intelligence is compared to the evolution of other animals.
I would suggest that our friend is somewhere between an amoeba and a crayfish
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lmao, this one is getting more and more funny. You made my day Islandjack Can´t wait for the next answer of onlinejoke..., but I don´t expect taht we get an answer to the question, but lets wait and see...
Posted by jessthehuman: You completely failed. Well done.
------------ oh by the way - no one is being evasive. We just think you are a complete joke. We are not engaging you "intellectually" because you're obviously a complete idiot.
OK jack ass if your not being evasive answer me this? Why does every single real money poker site fail to test for LNP and or reflection of expected out come.
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Posted by MIGO14: lmao, this one is getting more and more funny. You made my day Islandjack Can't wait for the next answer of onlinejoke..., but I don't expect taht we get an answer to the question, but lets wait and see...
Migo14 I totally agree as any answer would have to side with the facts I have stated.
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Posted by onlinejoke:
Posted by jessthehuman: You completely failed. Well done.
------------ oh by the way - no one is being evasive. We just think you are a complete joke. We are not engaging you "intellectually" because you're obviously a complete idiot.
OK jack ass if your not being evasive answer me this? Why does every single real money poker site fail to test for LNP and or reflection of expected out come.
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Posted by MIGO14: lmao, this one is getting more and more funny. You made my day Islandjack Can't wait for the next answer of onlinejoke..., but I don't expect taht we get an answer to the question, but lets wait and see...
Migo14 I totally agree as any answer would have to side with the facts I have stated.
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Too funny, totally oblivious, I think we could start agreeing with him and he would argue we are wrong. They dont use your made up test because they use their own, one of the many certifiers evaluate things such as :Statistical randomness;Internal state of the RNG;Unpredictability;Non-repeatability;Re-seeding and cycling. Correct operation of the RNG ensures that cards, die numbers, slot game symbols, feature game outputs, jackpot triggers etc. are statistically random and unpredictable. Testing of RNG is conducted in three stages. 1.Examination of Source Code. Identification of RNG algorithm and researching known weaknesses; Verify internal state of RNG; Verify RNG implementation caters for unpredictability and non-repeatability requirements; Verify seeding, background cycling and minimal re-seeding; Verify use of the random numbers, including scaling. 2.Raw numbers generated by the RNG algorithm are subjected to "diehard" tests. 3.Generate sample scaled output and apply scaling tests. e.g., if RNG is used to shuffle a deck of cards, then we would apply scaling tests to a wide range of shuffled decks. The second and third stage tests determine statistical randomness, unpredictability and non-repeatability of the RNG. All RNG evaluation must fully comply with the requirements of gaming jurisdictions.
I was a little surprised actually, after a little research I found some sites use up to 4 RNGs per hand. And online poker has the best RNGs going, possibly fairer then live deal hands, as onlinejoke has already pointed out live games can easily be manipulated with pro cheats sat at the table. You only have to do a quick search to see all the corrupt dealers that have been caught, never mind those who get away wit it.
BTW old man I work for myself and own a few homes, but i'm happy to be called working class, does not phase me, i'm probably just above average and overall a consistent winning player, I do not play live(at casinos) only with friends(i'm sure you are lacking) and yep I kick their asses, also I don't avoid facts, that is how I know you'r a wanker, online poker is fair as it can be, you don't read posts (or have the ability to interpret them) and will respond with your repetitive drivel that was blown out of the water weeks ago, dementia must be a horrid illness, I hope you get better.
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great post b1gfoot. I particularly like "They dont use your made up test because they use their own".
However; it is certainly falling on deaf ears. He has already been told all of this countless times in any number of the other threads he has created.
He obviously has some pretty severe issues, he will ignore everything you wrote and restate what he wrote in his post before yours. Accusing you of being evasive etc.
He is utterly insane. I completely refuse to try and engage him on any level other than his own from now on.
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Posted by B1gfoot: ...you don't read posts (or have the ability to interpret them) and will respond with your repetitive drivel that was blown out of the water weeks ago, dementia must be a horrid illness, I hope you get better.
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Posted by B1gfoot: Too funny, totally oblivious, I think we could start agreeing with him and he would argue we are wrong. They dont use your made up test because they use their own, one of the many certifiers evaluate things such as :Statistical randomness;Internal state of the RNG;Unpredictability;Non-repeatability;Re-seeding and cycling. Correct operation of the RNG ensures that cards, die numbers, slot game symbols, feature game outputs, jackpot triggers etc. are statistically random and unpredictable. Testing of RNG is conducted in three stages. 1.Examination of Source Code. Identification of RNG algorithm and researching known weaknesses; Verify internal state of RNG; Verify RNG implementation caters for unpredictability and non-repeatability requirements; Verify seeding, background cycling and minimal re-seeding; Verify use of the random numbers, including scaling. 2.Raw numbers generated by the RNG algorithm are subjected to "diehard" tests. 3.Generate sample scaled output and apply scaling tests. e.g., if RNG is used to shuffle a deck of cards, then we would apply scaling tests to a wide range of shuffled decks. The second and third stage tests determine statistical randomness, unpredictability and non-repeatability of the RNG. All RNG evaluation must fully comply with the requirements of gaming jurisdictions.
I was a little surprised actually, after a little research I found some sites use up to 4 RNGs per hand. And online poker has the best RNGs going, possibly fairer then live deal hands, as onlinejoke has already pointed out live games can easily be manipulated with pro cheats sat at the table. You only have to do a quick search to see all the corrupt dealers that have been caught, never mind those who get away wit it.
BTW old man I work for myself and own a few homes, but i'm happy to be called working class, does not phase me, i'm probably just above average and overall a consistent winning player, I do not play live(at casinos) only with friends(i'm sure you are lacking) and yep I kick their asses, also I don't avoid facts, that is how I know you'r a wanker, online poker is fair as it can be, you don't read posts (or have the ability to interpret them) and will respond with your repetitive drivel that was blown out of the water weeks ago, dementia must be a horrid illness, I hope you get better.
+ 1 though i think hes having more of a psychotic/ dissociative / personality problem rather than dementia. maybe hes just some 6 yr old thikin being ass is cool. anyway definitely need psychiatric help and would be a miracle if he can read and understand all these posts. and regarding the tests im sure theres no test available that can make these rigtards believe its random.
Posted by B1gfoot: Too funny, totally oblivious, I think we could start agreeing with him and he would argue we are wrong. They dont use your made up test because they use their own, one of the many certifiers evaluate things such as :Statistical randomness;Internal state of the RNG;Unpredictability;Non-repeatability;Re-seeding and cycling. Correct operation of the RNG ensures that cards, die numbers, slot game symbols, feature game outputs, jackpot triggers etc. are statistically random and unpredictable. Testing of RNG is conducted in three stages. 1.Examination of Source Code. Identification of RNG algorithm and researching known weaknesses; Verify internal state of RNG; Verify RNG implementation caters for unpredictability and non-repeatability requirements; Verify seeding, background cycling and minimal re-seeding; Verify use of the random numbers, including scaling. 2.Raw numbers generated by the RNG algorithm are subjected to "diehard" tests. 3.Generate sample scaled output and apply scaling tests. e.g., if RNG is used to shuffle a deck of cards, then we would apply scaling tests to a wide range of shuffled decks. The second and third stage tests determine statistical randomness, unpredictability and non-repeatability of the RNG. All RNG evaluation must fully comply with the requirements of gaming jurisdictions.
I was a little surprised actually, after a little research I found some sites use up to 4 RNGs per hand. And online poker has the best RNGs going, possibly fairer then live deal hands, as onlinejoke has already pointed out live games can easily be manipulated with pro cheats sat at the table. You only have to do a quick search to see all the corrupt dealers that have been caught, never mind those who get away wit it.
BTW old man I work for myself and own a few homes, but i'm happy to be called working class, does not phase me, i'm probably just above average and overall a consistent winning player, I do not play live(at casinos) only with friends(i'm sure you are lacking) and yep I kick their asses, also I don't avoid facts, that is how I know you'r a wanker, online poker is fair as it can be, you don't read posts (or have the ability to interpret them) and will respond with your repetitive drivel that was blown out of the water weeks ago, dementia must be a horrid illness, I hope you get better.
So the bases of the worlds logic of probability is MADE UP and these poker sites know better than the pure core of proven math, Great.
Any test of LNP long number probability will reflect either a bias or not and it is the only way to show weather or not a deal is genuine. Interestingly different testing houses test in different ways showing no consistency accept to the point of a random selection but do not confuse random with a reflection of an honest deal as if I was able to weight a coin to land on heads 9 out of ten times(on average) it would still be random.
So your saying that these intensive tests prove a selection is random and to that I will agree but un bias never. so to summerise we have a solid world accepted forula for showing any bias to a probable situation and none of these site will use these tests for what reason????? they have a better one???? bu ll s hit.
So you managed to buy a few houses with 125% morgages well done and your self employed well done.
well this old manhas made many a ranking point and lived for several years off poker alone.
On a closing point do you think any lagre company is honest, I have dealt with them and one big boys Centrica( British Gas) ripped me off for £380,000 , They will do anything to make a buck if they think they can get away with it and these poker sites are no different.
bankroll, he deposited 100 dollars on pokerstars and know he plays there at NL5....
though i think hes having more of a psychotic/ dissociative / personality problem rather than dementia. maybe hes just some 6 yr old thikin being ass is cool. anyway definitely need psychiatric help 
