Joined: Feb '11
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Posted by scl1975: yeah yeah yeah,u guys read to many books.dunno bout you guys but ive won 5 tournament at my local casino this year alone ,,with ,this so called crappy kind of play,for a total profit of $14,650.how you guys doin.caus i can lay down a hand.its always a lotto going allin preflop,as happened,we all play different,how has your games been this year guys.bet not as good as mine,mmmmm,wonder why,he still had say 8 more hands to build a stack with.we could argue all day,you guys would have all busted out and i would have kept going.so.he could have called for 20000,still had 60000,when old mate with kk most likely reraised all in mr 44 would have called he could have seen 2 players going in preflop already.he could have got out.to jessthehuman,what state you live in,how bout a friendly game to diprove you statement.put your money where you mouth is.i fly anywhere,or drive,2000 ks is only a 24 hr drive or a 2 hr plane ride.let play.
I hope you're just trolling. If not then you're really bad for not knowing a simple strat in poker that says to play push/fold with less than 10BB (I myself prefer even more than that but whatever). btw even if 2 players went all in it would still be a call,you play tournaments to win since most of the time the payout structure is top heavy as f**k,starting to nit it up in this phase would be exactly the wrong thing. Btw,what are your screennames online? If you're such a live baller when surely you're made nice profits online as well and we could also set up a private game where you can show us your skillz
FYI I never read a poker book and don't plan to,it's all general poker strategy that everyone who has an idea about how to play tourneys will give you.
I use this to check whether my decision was +EV for push/fold when I had 15BB or less. It will give you the range that you can push or call an earlier push dependent entirely on stack sizes and payout structure. It can take some time if you have a lot of hands that you weren't sure about but it's worth the effort.
Also there is an offline tool called SitNGo Wizard that does similar but you can import your hand histories. This is not free but there is a fully functioning 30 day trial.
I use this to check whether my decision was +EV for push/fold when I had 15BB or less. It will give you the range that you can push or call an earlier push dependent entirely on stack sizes and payout structure. It can take some time if you have a lot of hands that you weren't sure about but it's worth the effort.
Also there is an offline tool called SitNGo Wizard that does similar but you can import your hand histories. This is not free but there is a fully functioning 30 day trial.
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Canada
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 1660
Definitely agree with you there and Flipped to, an all the others. You did the best thing, but in Poker (as you all know) the best thing isn't always the right thing, you got unlucky and that's all. Don't second guess yourself you did well to place that high and still got some money. You can't win them all. Better luck next time.
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 4827
You played just fine. You did what you had to. You had 4 BB's and, with a hand like that, i think it was the only decision to take. Either that or stop playing and waiting for time to pass and chips to end, to see if someone goes out first and you get higher place, which will mean higher prize. I would have done the same as you.
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
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Wow, this site has gone quite weird, instant AI, no ifs buts or I won WSOP and would fold, that's just plain wrong, in LP wit that stack and them blinds would be looking to shove almost any 2. AQs A gift from the gods, UL.
Good shove, but you only had 4 BB so big stacks could call with about anything. The Key is to simply not let your stack go down so much. I know it's easy to say but I prefer risking with a marginal hand when I got 10-15 big blinds cause atleast the move has a chance to work!
Posted by BeMyATMplz: If not then you're really bad for not knowing a simple strat in poker that says to play push/fold with less than 10BB (I myself prefer even more than that but whatever).
From what I've learned you usually push 13BB or less With 4BB it's almost push any2, because most of the time there will be ante in game so you can't wait for good hand with 4BB in tourney. You play to win, always.
As for AQs it was standard all in.
@scl1975 - "its always a lotto going allin preflop" - yeah lol. It's always 50/50 when you go all in pre flop - you either win or lose God damn I also hope you are just trolling. I'm not losing player but I would rather be good loser than bad winner.
u did just the right thing,and would have won 7 times out of 10,you was just in bad luck..I did the same once in a tournament..won it and that change it all,and i ended up winning the tournament and 430 dollars..nice
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Canada
Age: 39 (M)
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I guess the angry guy didn't respond. Too many challenges go unfulfilled here. Aside from that:
@JBrooksie: What is an ICM Nash calculator? I got the idea from your description and from looking at it but what does ICM stand for and why Nash? Is he the programmer? It does look like a useful tool, I'll have to play around with it. Thanks for sharing.
Joined: Mar '08
Location: Australia
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 1158
hi yes bit of controversy,i shouldnt post when im pissed.no i never give out my screen name to anyone,1 cauz they can see how bad a player i am... 2.have had 2 poker accounts hacked before because of this.dammm russians,this also included my facebook account.why i now have ten different passwords.3.once people see how much i suck at online poker i become a target.and yes i do suck at online poker,just cant seam to get it or have brilliant weeks,then bam,river river river.i am not ssaying online is rigged.my problem is to many cash games.variance i know,but sometimes itsucks.take yesterday party poker.had pkt AA.raise,one called,flop comes,QQA.aweet.raise.was reraised,so allin,as you do.call.lose,him QQQQ.no escape.another table BB,A2clubs.no one raises so free hand in BB or woul;d have folded.flop comes 345clubs.straight flush....check it down,try to sucker table,player goes all in.cool.problem is he had 67clubs.ahahahahahahah.
Joined: Jun '11
Location: United Kingdom
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if anyone says theyd play that any different i'll show you a liar!!!!! its standard play and you done what was needed,unlucky to be up against it but has to be done... gl in the next 1 and gl all mobsters...
Joined: Dec '09
Location: United Kingdom
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thats not even an issue i would bet my left nut that daniel would say the same with 4 bb, and you cant use being drunk for an excuse to what you said if i was asleep i would know to ship it there
God damn I also hope you are just trolling. I'm not losing player but I would rather be good loser than bad 
