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"It would be fair to say that it hasn't been the greatest year so far for Ilari "Ziigmund/Ilari FIN" Sahamies at the online PLO tables having lost over $600k at Full Tilt and in excess of $850k at PokerStars. One can imagine that yesterdays solid $178k win must have come as a welcome relief for the highstakes regular.
In five hours of play and after a little over 100 hands of play in a busy morning of $50/$100 PLO action the outspoken Finn was able to leave the tables a comfortable victor, his healthy profit coming largely from one player - French poker pro Romain “moirhums” Arnaud. Moirhums has only been playing regularly on Stars since April this year and yesterday’s session more than wiped out the $138k profit he had accrued thus far in 2011.
Ilari FIN put the pressure on from the word go and didn’t let up until the final hand was played, taking all the major pots along the way. If he can continue in this vein and rebuild his roll on Stars then we could see some more interesting match-ups on the heads up tables as the likes of Phil "MrSweets28" Galfond, Gavin "gavz101" Cochrane, Viktor "Isildur1" Blom, Sauce123 and Skjervoy are now regular inhabitants of the PokerStars PLO tables."
I think he still needs to improve his game but i think Ilari is on the right track now
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one winning session doesnt mean hes back on track. but atleast he won some of the money he has lost this year. lets see if can continue this in the next session.
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Posted by SuperNoob: one winning session doesnt mean hes back on track. but atleast he won some of the money he has lost this year. lets see if can continue this in the next session.
Agreed, it sounds like the guy may actually be a losing player and just hit a sick heater.
Even donks win hands some times, it's the nature of poker. Variance can be a complete bitch.
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Ilari FIN put the pressure on from the word go and didn’t let up until the final hand was played, taking all the major pots along the way. If he can continue in this vein and rebuild his roll on Stars then we could see some more interesting match-ups on the heads up tables as the likes of Phil "MrSweets28" Galfond, Gavin "gavz101" Cochrane, Viktor "Isildur1" Blom, Sauce123 and Skjervoy are now regular inhabitants of the PokerStars PLO tables."
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Wow! That is an insane amount of loss, even if it is over an entire year. Is that within the realm of normal statistical deviation. I imagine he must be feeling pretty good after that huge haul, although it's still a long way away from recouping all those losses! Yikes.
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Posted by Arithmajik: Wow! That is an insane amount of loss, even if it is over an entire year. Is that within the realm of normal statistical deviation. I imagine he must be feeling pretty good after that huge haul, although it's still a long way away from recouping all those losses! Yikes.
Yeah, but playing to "recoup losses" is a recipe for tilt. Never, ever, EVER should a player be playing to chase losses.
I think the guy should give up and try something else, losing that much over the span of a year isn't tilt, it isn't a downsing. It's a solid sign that he's not a winning player, or is playing way over his head.
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1.5 mil in losses. Thats an amount that would make the majority of people happy for the rest of their lives. Including me And of course there are players that have lost more than that and they even got it back and more. So it might be one of them or one of those who fade
Joined: Apr '11
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Yes, a winning session doesn't men to much but i personally think it's on the right track when it comes to his style of play, he always was a maniac really
I watched him for a bit and it was very similar to the times when he used to win a lot on full tilt poker, but we'll see whats going to happen.
Still, it's good that we have good PLO action on pokerstars
Joined: Jul '11
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Nice dude. The way is that and winner always will be winners in general mode. Of coarse that win one time do not means win in second time but was great to get the prize. What is so funny is the way to win or beat the opponent.
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You are right, Ilari is not a constant winner like Phil Ivey for example and it will never be since he plays way too aggressive and tries to bluff so much...
If you look on a graph of his poker evolution on full tilt poker we he actually managed to make some profits you'll see a lot of ups and downs...
Still, i like him because it's nice to see a bit of madness in the world of high stakes poker
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This just shows that his bankroll suffers of great volatility, like some titles in the stock exchange market. Usualy, one could easily say this happens because his game is still not totaly secure, and thats why he can win so much one day and loose more the day after. A consistent pro can have good and bad times, but he should be able not to ruin the stack almost till the end. I will not talk in values but in percentages, so it can be easily explained: A pro has a value that his defined has his bankroll, and that is 100%, the begining, the Social Capital, just like any other enterprise. During his year of activity he has profits and he has costs, but the sum of profits and costs, if negative, can never be higher than his Social Capital, which would provoke his bankrupcy. The pro must be able to get to the end of the year with enough profit to pay for all his costs, to pay for him as a worker, and all his team if he has one, and to have some advantage in order to do investments in his carreer through out the next year!
